M-a-d Bennett Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Hi I want to put a new front and back brakes on my saracen mad and I dont know which is better. V-Brakes Hydrolic rim brakes Hydrolic Disc brake Mechanical Disc brake Thanks Marc :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fezzer Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 i have magura hs33's and i've heard that if you bleed them with water then they are really sharp and responsive so i'm going to do that tomorow. i've also heard that hydrolic disk brakes are really good but i don't know whether they where bles with proper fluid or just water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeza Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 The hydraulic disk is really good i advise a hope trial for the front, www.tartybikes.co.uk And for the back i would have a magura hs33. Both are hydraulic. Jeza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerdude2006fr Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 dude defo a magura hs33 rim brake for the rear, but NOT the new 2005 version they are SHIT!! get like an 03/04. for the front get a hydrolic disc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 (edited) HS33 for the back, everyone will agree, I would get a HS33 for the front too, espesially(SP?) as your learning. EDIT: what you on about? the 05 levers feel much better. I need some lol. Edited October 25, 2005 by ash-kennard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerdude2006fr Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 yeah i will agree fully with you, the lever is lush, but the pystons, slaves are absolute shite, the sweetest setup is 05 lever with 04 slaves, trust me on that one B) but i have never had anything good from my fully 05 brake, neither has my cousin, so steer clear!!! 05 brakes are SHIT :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kick-this Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 dude defo a magura hs33 rim brake for the rear, but NOT the new 2005 version they are SHIT!! get like an 03/04. for the front get a hydrolic disc. Nothing wrong with the new 05 levers, made of the same stuff and do the same job! Just a different shape. Anyway back to the topic Magura hs33 for rear, with a nice grind and some koxx browns avid juicy 7 for the front (in my view the best trials disk brake available) hope this helps Dave... :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deonn h Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 For the back definately get a hydrolic hs33 as they give the best grab .For the front some people prefere hs33 bacause they give great bite and lock when going to front wheel swapping ect.And some people prefere discs because when it gets wet they work really well sometimes even better than the dry where as hydrolic brakes tend to slip in the wet.It`s mostely a personal choice i would just get a hs33 front and back. :- Cheers Deonn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayneone Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 I run hs-33 2005 front and rear, Original bleed(Go on slate me :-) Zoo! pads(rear) and Heatsink blues(front) i personaly think there great. Alot of people run a front hydro disk, its rare to see a rear disk becuase your likley to bend or break it when performing trials moves like sidehops for example. You have the Saracen 2six right? Id say get a magura hs-33 for the rear and for the front its personal preference(and your wallet size) either a good v-brake(avid,xtr),A good disk(Hope,Magura louise) or a magura hs-33. And as for the 2005 hs-33 being "shit" i dont aggree i have some 1998(oldskool B)) on my xc/commute bike, i much prefere the levers to the 2005 ones, Whats the difference to the pistions? i cant tell the difference to be honest, Didnt magura claim to have upgraded them some how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 (edited) I run hs-33 2005 front and rear, Original bleed(Go on slate me :-) Zoo! pads(rear) and Heatsink blues(front) i personaly think there great. Alot of people run a front hydro disk, its rare to see a rear disk becuase your likley to bend or break it when performing trials moves like sidehops for example. You have the Saracen 2six right? Id say get a magura hs-33 for the rear and for the front its personal preference(and your wallet size) either a good v-brake(avid,xtr),A good disk(Hope,Magura louise) or a magura hs-33. And as for the 2005 hs-33 being "shit" i dont aggree i have some 1998(oldskool B)) on my xc/commute bike, i much prefere the levers to the 2005 ones, Whats the difference to the pistions? i cant tell the difference to be honest, Didnt magura claim to have upgraded them some how? Not entirely true, Rich pearson runs a disc, mainly because his frame won't break under the pressusre of a disc, where as many other frames would just crack and/or snap And there's nout wrong with an original bled maggie. Iv'e had mine for 2 years without the need for a bleed. Edited October 25, 2005 by ash-kennard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayneone Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 (edited) Ahh ash another bleed virgin lol :- Im not to knolegeable on disk brakes but i try to put in from what i learn. Edited October 25, 2005 by wayneone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kick-this Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 "Whats the difference to the pistions? i cant tell the difference to be honest, Didn't magura claim to have upgraded them some how?" Nothing Different, Their the same! Apart from the lever which feels much nicer.. I think it's good that u run your maguras on their first bleed, I would still be if i hadn't split my hose :- Dave...B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshywa Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 avid bb7 for the front :P (Y) :) i dont need to say any more but seeing as that might not of won you over then here 1.they have awsome power 2.they're the cheapest disc brake (other than tektro and hayes mechanical :- ) 3.mechanicals are easy to setup and service here i even gave you a link: http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=2617 B) hope that helps B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Well i dont know anything what so other about disc brakes, although i can say a magura with plazmatic pads and a grind is great on the back, i run a vee on the fron wich i quite like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Just thought i'd let you know you've spelt boring wrong in your profile, the 'where you live' bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayneone Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 yeah i will agree fully with you, the lever is lush, but the pystons, slaves are absolute shite, the sweetest setup is 05 lever with 04 slaves, trust me on that one B) but i have never had anything good from my fully 05 brake, neither has my cousin, so steer clear!!! 05 brakes are SHIT :- So theres no piston difference?(To kick-this) Then whats our mate bikerdude talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houseface Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 get some maggies, the '04 ones id say but its your choice, steve. :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-BAD Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 get an 04 brake set for £90 at BIKE DOCK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kick-this Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 (edited) So theres no piston difference?(To kick-this) Then whats our mate bikerdude talking about? OK they mabe better but not worse, why would magura down grade the piston seals on the 05's :- I'v had no problems whatsoever with my 05's and niether has my mate so... in awnser to your question i don't know what he's talking about?? Dave... Edited October 25, 2005 by kick-this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nb88 Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 yeah i will agree fully with you, the lever is lush, but the pystons, slaves are absolute shite, the sweetest setup is 05 lever with 04 slaves, trust me on that one ;) but i have never had anything good from my fully 05 brake, neither has my cousin, so steer clear!!! 05 brakes are SHIT ;) Erm...05 lever and 04 slaves = 05 brake. There's no difference to the slaves in the 2005 upgrade. So stop talking bollocks :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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