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The point I was making was not whether Echo used that technology now or not. Please re-read the responce. The statement was that Echo had done it for years, that is the incorrect portion. Unless, of course, anything under 2 years is considers "for years"....then we need to agree upon what version of english interpretation you are using.

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Didn't the 2004 Controls and Pures have the funky octagonal downtube? Such as these: http://le-trial.com/echo.htm

Either way, Koxx have taken it further than before.

Yes, they did have funky shaped down tubes in 2004. However, the shape of a tube does not necessarily translate to the same type of technology they are using for new Koxx frames. Drawn, CNC'd, forged or whatever...those terms have been used with great elasticity for many decades....currenty use of those methods is quite different (more advanced as you point out Adam) than previously.

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looks like a slightly more trialsy appollo design to me :(

That describes them perfectly, the mod looks like a cheaper version of the old T-pro with a seat tube and an equally disgusting paint job.

They'd look great if the paint wasn't retro 80's.

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About a grand.

why their clothes seem quite cheap, compraed to what you'd pay for other high-street brands their hoodies are £40 compared to the usual £50 that most places rob you...

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Pay the right price you can get anything here dude...

yes adam, im assuming the karbon would be along the same price tag as the other pro-models?

and im guessing its going to be available in the UK with the hydroxx and koxxboxx? - 1-2 months time? cos i can't find it anywhere yet in UK sites..

steve

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yes adam, im assuming the karbon would be along the same price tag as the other pro-models?

and im guessing its going to be available in the UK with the hydroxx and koxxboxx? - 1-2 months time? cos i can't find it anywhere yet in UK sites..

steve

Yea should think the carbon is going to be alot of money if they do indeed bring them out..

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