wayneone Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 I cant get to the bottom bracket on my saracen team issue(the silver one) i know its a ISIS style bottom bracket, But i just cant get any tool to fit it. i bought the bb tool from tartybikes but i wont fit in, there doesnt seem to be any splines inside the bb shell for the tool to grab onto instead it just hits the out side of the bb and wont go in anymore. Ive taken the tool to halfords they said all there bb tools are the same as the one i have. I realy wont want to take it to a lbs and have them charge me £10-20 just so they can tighten up the bb a little and put some grease in becuase i can do this myself i just dont have the right tool(s). Has anyone had a problem with this them selfs? Ive emailed saracen and am waiting for a reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quick_spider Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 There are two sorts of spline - the 20 point spline, and the 8 point spline. It's possible you have the wrong tool. 20 point fits this 8 point fits this The other possibility is that the tool you have is an older type and doesn't have enough clearance for thicker/longer ISIS axles. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvtrial Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 Ask your nearest bikedealer, if don't by tools from here: http://www.chainreactioncycles.com I think they have som tools to help you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayneone Posted October 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 (edited) I have one like this http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=4752 The other one looks like a lock ring remover? the problem is it seems too big perhaps ill give the other one a try. EDIT http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=4982 thats the cookie mine looks a bit like that form the outside altho i took the lock ring off(screw driver +hammer (Y) ) and the bb didnt seem to move. 2nd edit Is there another place i can buy the 8 prong tool? As its out of stock on crc for 3 weeks! Edited October 22, 2005 by wayneone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quick_spider Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 Tartybikes have them in stock according to their site. Linkage The 8 Prong tool is used on XTR Bottom Brackets (M950/M952) XTR Spider lockrings and Middleburn Lockrings. Truvative BB's also use them. Hope that's of some help. I'm sure if you're friendly with your local bike shop, they'd whip the BB out for you for around a 5er, or possibly lend you the tool to do it yourself in the shop. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayneone Posted October 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 Quick spider i just want to tighten it up a little. I dont understand how this works becuase i alredy had the lock ring off and it seemed to have nothing to do with the bb, how does that tool take out/put in the bb? and yes i have truvative bb. But i can see how the 20 prong one works, the "teeth" grab the splines and undo it as you turn it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quick_spider Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 Sorry - I thought you wanted to change the BB. Sounds like a weird one. On cheaper bottom brackets that don't run cartridge bearings there's often a lockring, a static cup and a locking cup. On my XTR BB you tighten the static cup © as far as it'll go. Then you tighten the locking cup (Y) in until the BB spindle doesn't rock from side to side, ie the bearing preload is correct. Then you tighten the lockring (:D against the BB shell to lock it all in place. Is there anyway to turn the cup where you took the lockring off? Any chance of a picture of it? Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayneone Posted October 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 Well i just wanted to tighten it up because it was clicking but i might just grease the inside of it and see how it goes, pictures err yeah next time i take it off ill email you them? better than reposting on here right. its a truvative bb standard to the bike, so if you know anyone on the m.a.d team you could ask them better than reposting on here right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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