Mark W Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 160mm marta kicks all of these into tuch bay a mile power wise ^_^ just dont use or ther rotors than the magura ones :) When your's worked it was OK, but it seems a bit touchy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIX Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Sorry dont quite follow So the brake slips when the front wheel has weight on it when not quite fully on the edge of a ledge etc.? No not just on a edge. The thing where you have your front wheel over the top of an object, for example a wall with a lip at the top. So you have your front wheel over the top of this lip and your hanging off your front wheel basically vertically. http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/forum/index....md=si&img=11717 When there is not really much lip at all then the brake can slip backwards and down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Booth Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 i think the words your after are 'front hook' ^_^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 (edited) 203mm ^_^ Avids are all good. I wasn't super impressed with the modulation of mine at first, but I bedded it in, and it's perfect now, pretty much. Just holds *so* well, it's crazy. Just having such great lock and hold (and modulation) in the wet is great... now that is where it is at. i have a 203 with sram 5 lever and some cheap cable that is well greased and it is silly powerful. i hate to say it but im scared of it lol :) just go for the avid mate lots of hold and when you are used to it you can use the modultion to great effect Edited October 20, 2005 by ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIX Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 i think the words your after are 'front hook' I dont think you would call it a hook as its not a front hook with speed its a static move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Booth Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 (edited) static front hook ^_^ Marky boy, what rotor is that??? does it over heat ? mine was overheating the other night and it was like using wet poo as pads, didnt work at all. Cheers Tom Edited October 20, 2005 by Tom Booth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 I know someone who's f**ked a hope trial up ^_^ think he said it burst. Either way its f**ked now The beauty of Hope - all small parts available seperately, fully rebuildable, all user serviceable :) Another vote for the Mono Trial from here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_Porter Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 when my hope mono trial works its awesome, i am having some problems with it at the moment but they are getting sorted. i think i am going to replace the rotor with an aztec one or what ever they are. i know pedrosa (jix) has done it and he said it made it better, has anyone else done it, and has it made it better? cause the rotors you get with them are right crap in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Try some silicone spray James - the grease won't work its way in properly. A new set of pads would do it good too ^_^ The Aztec rotors are pretty sweet, although I think it causes the brake to overheat and pads to glaze more easily. Theres less surface area, and the lack of holes doenst scrape the pads as well. When Kev's brake overheat and he hit that car, he was using an Aztec rotor I believe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 I thought the aztec rotors were 160/180 not 165/185? or are the opes 180 like the old mono minis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff... Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 I like my magura marta sl, it works just as good as hope mono trials brakes but it's bit more expensive. Also i rate avid cable disk brakes because there cheap and really sharp work well but the hope and magura have good modulation. Cheers Kyle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIX Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Hopes are 160 or 180 for mono trial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff... Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Hopes are 160 or 180 for mono trial Thinck you can get a 200 rotor and adaptor now aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Bleech Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Try some silicone spray James - the grease won't work its way in properly. A new set of pads would do it good too ^_^ The Aztec rotors are pretty sweet, although I think it causes the brake to overheat and pads to glaze more easily. Theres less surface area, and the lack of holes doenst scrape the pads as well. When Kev's brake overheat and he hit that car, he was using an Aztec rotor I believe... hope gothic :) - he was practically downhilling on a vinco, he likes to go fast - before then riding 'normal' trials it was absolutely fine and the brake worked awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Cool, cheers for clearing that up Mike ^_^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipkickbs Posted October 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 If i were to get the avid, does the lever make a huge difference to braking power, or is it just the feel of the brake? My v lever is some shatty old avid sd5 with loads of play in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swize Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 (edited) Everyone says the more expensive levers make it better but ime really happy with the one i have and its only about £10 . But from the one you have i would change it; yours is a little sketchy ^_^ . Just grab a not to expensive avid one from CRC. Sam Edited October 20, 2005 by samthebiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Mine's a standard Avid rotor, basically. Just the one that came with it, to the best of my knowledge. Apparently, those EBC red pads are made so that they dissipate heat better? Says they're more suitable for DH 'cos they don't overheat as much anyway, so they'd probably be OK for trials? Was tempted to get the Aztec rotor when I saw it in a shop near here, but for £30 I couldn't be arsed, really. My 203 on there now is plenty good enough, and it's *awesome* for modulation now too ^_^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp101 Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 i really wonder how so many people can afford magura brakes..honestly. These blokes are going "GET MAGURAS" right off. Or hell, even HOPE's. I get base wage. I think the first statement is in part due to the fact that many riders here are <18 and don't have to pay rent! Avid BB7 Mechanical. Get the Red Pads for it. You'll save money. You'll be a better braker. It'll do the same exact job as a £200 brake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicH_87 Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 i really wonder how so many people can afford magura brakes..honestly. These blokes are going "GET MAGURAS" right off. Or hell, even HOPE's. I get base wage. I think the first statement is in part due to the fact that many riders here are <18 and don't have to pay rent! no-one i know buys maguras brand new for full price. most peeps get them 'free' with their first full build or get them of a mate/forum second hand. you'd have to be desperate or stupid to pay full whack for a maggie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 i really wonder how so many people can afford magura brakes..honestly. These blokes are going "GET MAGURAS" right off. Or hell, even HOPE's. I get base wage. I think the first statement is in part due to the fact that many riders here are <18 and don't have to pay rent! Avid BB7 Mechanical. Get the Red Pads for it. You'll save money. You'll be a better braker. It'll do the same exact job as a £200 brake. I'm 18, but I work two jobs (one at £5.05 per hour, which is pretty good compared to minimum wage, and one at minimum wage) to afford stuff ^_^ But yeah, true about the Maguras can't believe how expensive they are. I guess you do get good customer support/warranty with it though? But still, say, £190 for a new Marta is pretty intense. The only problem I've got with my Avid is that if I'm slowing down from speed with it, it makes a really loud moaning sound? Not squealing, just loud... It's odd. Then when you let go of the lever, it makes a "Ching" sound as though you've flicked the rotor. Weird. Ah well, hoping it'll resolve itself. Only happens every now nad again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 ebay is the wonderful place to get maggie disks. Recently a marta SL went for £47, shame I missed it ^_^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 The only problem I've got with my Avid is that if I'm slowing down from speed with it, it makes a really loud moaning sound? Not squealing, just loud... It's odd. Then when you let go of the lever, it makes a "Ching" sound as though you've flicked the rotor. Is the spring in correctly? I had that when my spring had popped out a bit and was catching the rotor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipkickbs Posted October 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 Ok, i've come to the decision to go for the avid bb7 due to price and simplicity. I have also been looking at the avid sd3 lever to go with it, would this be a good enough lever or would it feel like poo? i've heard that different cables are better than others to reduce cable stretch and give a more solid feel? Would it be worth splashing out a bit on some new cable too? cheers for the input so far :P :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp101 Posted October 20, 2005 Report Share Posted October 20, 2005 The SD3 lever is fine. AVID cables would be a good idea. Avid cables are rather hard to stretch out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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