Simpson Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 (edited) I was asking if they would work on my bike and be ok with the geo etc as I wasnt that sure People get very shirty about street trials not being trials. What is it with these people?? Trials snobs.... Ive said before that trials is WAY more than just hopping around on rocks and riding through tapes in under 2 mins without putting your feet down. Trials is whatever you want t make it, in the street, woods, moors...Whatever you want, theres no limit on what you can ride. Why do stuck up people insist on pigeon holing trials into strict catagories??? "Oh thats not trials" so if a BMX'er is riding street then thats street trials, and if a dirt jumper is riding jumps through the woods thats wood trials? i dont understand the point that you are trying to make i understand that trials can be ridden on many different terains but surley thats trials in the woods, or trials on the stree, or natural trials??? Edited October 16, 2005 by pissin_on_the_fence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLATOUTSTYLE Posted October 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 (edited) so if a BMX'er is riding street then thats street trials, and if a dirt jumper is riding jumps through the woods thats wood trials? i dont understand the point that you are trying to make i understand that trials can be ridden on many different terains but surley thats trials in the woods, or trials on the stree, or natural trials??? so if a BMX'er is riding street then thats street trials??? You lost me there??? People riding street on trials bike I mean, nichols_sam said street trials IS trials, I was just adding to his comment Edited October 16, 2005 by FLATOUTSTYLE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp101 Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Urban trials, street trials, whatever is just doing trials riding on the street. Like hopping on mailboxes. Ryan Leech, Jeff Lenosky..street trials.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLATOUTSTYLE Posted October 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Urban trials, street trials, whatever is just doing trials riding on the street. Like hopping on mailboxes. Ryan Leech, Jeff Lenosky..street trials.. Ryan and Jeff :turned: (Y) :P I think their style rules! All my inspiration comes from them two guys... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moo Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 jus to add to the street trials isnt trials debate then why is there a section on it in tricks and stunts 2 i only ride street trials as to me its more fun and there no rush or competition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishayton Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Ryan and Jeff :turned: (Y) :P I think their style rules! All my inspiration comes from them two guys... buy a bloody norco and some sus forks and then just shut up, on all these topics youve made no matter what people say you seem to have made your opinions already, so buy a norco, ride like ryan leech and just go out riding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLATOUTSTYLE Posted October 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 (edited) buy a bloody norco and some sus forks and then just shut up, on all these topics youve made no matter what people say you seem to have made your opinions already, so buy a norco, ride like ryan leech and just go out riding! dont bloody read them then, everyone has their own opinions, thats one thing that makes us human, I have my opinions but wish to get other peoples as you might pick up something you didnt know......Your not obliged to read my posts, so .........DONT Edited October 16, 2005 by FLATOUTSTYLE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishayton Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 (edited) hmm nice edit dont bloody read them then i was trying to be helpful and i belive i added some constructive comments to your posts,but im serious though, just buy a norco, then you will have a bike you can do your agressive street riding and ryan leech style moves on. Edited October 16, 2005 by chrishayton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Your not obliged to read my posts, so .........DONT Right theres a problem there When you post a topic asking for help, people have to "read your posts" so they understand what it is you're asking. Chris might have had the one answer you wanted, but with that snobbish, spoilt attitude of yours you've basically told him that you dont want help. And its not just chris you've done this too, its everyone else WHOS TRIED TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION Be courteous and respect other peoples opinions please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLATOUTSTYLE Posted October 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 hmm nice edit i was trying to be helpful and i belive i added some constructive comments to your posts,but im serious though, just buy a norco, then you will have a bike you can do your agressive street riding and ryan leech style moves on. Computer says nooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishayton Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Computer says nooo what is wrong with that idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackghostknife Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Lol hes well mature... i thought i said he was one of the most controversial people i kno but message didnt come up :turned: youve been on the forum 3 days nd are acting like you own it and telling people what to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLATOUTSTYLE Posted October 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 (edited) what is wrong with that idea? Im trying to get to the bottom of the problem I have about deciding on a new setup.... things I discovered are that the norco geo is; Top tube 22.40" Head angle 72 chainstays 404mm Wheelbase 1017mm Fork Length 372mm ???? dont understand that size? seems a little bit....mad pashley Top tube: 22" head angle 72 Chain stays: 407mm Wheelbase: 1045mm (with the straight blade forks) Leech bike has the same head angle of 72........Is a shorter wheelbase...BUT, the top tube is longer ? I dont get it? Stays are 3 mm longer which wont make any diff at all but its way way shorter which defeats the object of my getting a longer frame to help ideas. Dont know what the wheelbase of my bike is as I have the tv series forks on...around 1040 id say..405 mm fork Edited October 16, 2005 by FLATOUTSTYLE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishayton Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Dont know what the wheelbase of my bike is as I have the tv series forks on...around 1040 id say..405 mm fork you could always measure it. if you think the pashley is too small get a longer bike, how about an onza woodstock(1055)? or back to my original sugestion of a short echo control or a 1065 levelboss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLATOUTSTYLE Posted October 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 you could always measure it. if you think the pashley is too small get a longer bike, how about an onza woodstock(1055)? or back to my original sugestion of a short echo control or a 1065 levelboss echo koxx, yeah. Some people have said they are no good for me and I wont be able to do certain moves on them which I fing hard to believe but I aint rode one, its seems to do a never ending circle of conflicting advice. Im listening to what everyone has to say, studying the geo specs, and trying to analyze all the info I have to come up with a decision but Im finding it all quite confusing... :P :turned: (Y) Lol hes well mature... i thought i said he was one of the most controversial people i kno but message didnt come up :P youve been on the forum 3 days nd are acting like you own it and telling people what to do Yeah well. Thank you very much for your input Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLATOUTSTYLE Posted October 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 (edited) you could always measure it. if you think the pashley is too small get a longer bike, how about an onza woodstock(1055)? or back to my original sugestion of a short echo control or a 1065 levelboss Onza woodstock, That what akrigg used to ride???? echo koxx, yeah. Quite a few people have said they are no good for me and I wont be able to do certain moves on them which I find hard to believe but I aint rode one, its seems to do a never ending circle of conflicting advice. Im listening to what everyone has to say, studying the geo specs, and trying to analyze all the info I have to come up with a decision but Im finding it all quite confusing... Edited October 16, 2005 by FLATOUTSTYLE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 I am sure someone has already said (its late and I dont want to look through 3 pages) but I recken a Leeson would be puuurfect. You could ask for the exact geo you wanted, frame size, saddle, everything. bit exspensive though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackghostknife Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Pitbulls are nice and in 1060 have a slack head-angle so seem short and are really flicky :turned: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLATOUTSTYLE Posted October 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 (edited) Pitbulls are nice and in 1060 have a slack head-angle so seem short and are really flicky :turned: Hmm thats what I thought, with a shorter back, and a riser bar with a 90mm ten degree rise stem it should fel fine for quick twisty moves, backwheel 360s, front wheel pivots, what about hop up manuals etc?? short back end should be good right?? What Id like is a bike with a wheel base of around 1055/1065 not sure if 1065 would be too long? I ride 1040 now, pashley. a shorter back end to help on the back wheel, around 380/385 a headangle that gives a long top tube of around 22,5" ish maybe longer, dont know what angle would giv that, a bb height that aint too mad, +10mm rise max, or 0 even better with a short snappy feel but room for me to feel comfortable Edited October 16, 2005 by FLATOUTSTYLE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Bleech Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Hmm thats what I thought, with a shorter back, and a riser bar with a 90mm ten degree rise stem it should fel fine for quick twisty moves, backwheel 360s, front wheel pivots, what about hop up manuals etc?? short back end should be good right?? What Id like is a bike with a wheel base of around 1055/1065 not sure if 1065 would be too long? I ride 1040 now, pashley. a shorter back end to help on the back wheel, around 380/385 a headangle that gives a long top tube of around 22,5" ish maybe longer, dont know what angle would giv that, a bb height that aint too mad, +10mm rise max, or 0 even better with a short snappy feel but room for me to feel comfortable you have pretty much just described an echo pure there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 Would that by any chance be yours? its incredibly loveable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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