FLATOUTSTYLE Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Can anybody tell me how much the CZAR Ivan frame is????? I like the look of it and maybe get 1...Although I ride street style...front wheels tricks, manuals etc so Im not quite sure if its suitable? Its here http://www.trialsin.com/sell/frames/czar/cframe.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMonkey Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Long and low, it ain't what you're looking for. You want something shorter, more like a Leeson type bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLATOUTSTYLE Posted October 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Long and low, it ain't what you're looking for. You want something shorter, more like a Leeson type bike. I have a pashley so a leeson would be pointless as its very similar, the more I consider what frame to get the more unsure I become Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp101 Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 The price is right there silly billy, 440 USD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMonkey Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Stick with the Pashley (N) If you like the way it rides, and it rides the way you want it to, and is good for the way you ride etc. No point in changing. Maybe try some other peoples bikes see what you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLATOUTSTYLE Posted October 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Stick with the Pashley (N) If you like the way it rides, and it rides the way you want it to, and is good for the way you ride etc. No point in changing. Maybe try some other peoples bikes see what you think. No, theres no way I can try other peoples bikes, as theres no trials riders round here appart from 1 mate of mine, so Im stuck. The pashley is too short for me, Im quite tall and think its cramping me up too much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMonkey Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Get a Leeson with same geo but longer then?? Maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLATOUTSTYLE Posted October 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 The price is right there silly billy, 440 USD NO, thats yank money and a yank dealer so the price here could vary. Everythings cheaper in the US...Its not an accurate figure in $'s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMonkey Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Well $440 is around £250, then importing it would be another £50-100. So you'd be talking £300-350 but surely there'll be a Euro dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLATOUTSTYLE Posted October 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Get a Leeson with same geo but longer then?? Maybe. Hmm... argh... Its a possibility I suppose, but they are expensive in comparison aint they? Bikes like zoo, echo etc are really cheap now 299 ish so thats the budget im aiming for as you should be able to get a good frame for that.. I dont know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMonkey Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Well the Leesons are completely custom, so it's why you pay more. I have a feeling the Leesons are around £440ish, but you get it however you want. And it's steel so it's bomb proof (N) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 I'm 99% sure selectbikes.com are the UK importer for CZAR. Not sure if he has any in, or when he gets them in if he hasn't. Not checked site, so they might already be there, but worth checking out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp101 Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Planet X Pitbull? Kinda heavy, but strong. And you're a big guy. Or.. Could get a jeff lenosky Giant STP 1 frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLATOUTSTYLE Posted October 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 I'm 99% sure selectbikes.com are the UK importer for CZAR. Not sure if he has any in, or when he gets them in if he hasn't. Not checked site, so they might already be there, but worth checking out. Nice yan...cheers. Doubt its any good for me though... Planet X Pitbull? Kinda heavy, but strong. And you're a big guy. Or.. Could get a jeff lenosky Giant STP 1 frame. NOT A bad idea..Im the same height as Jeff but, he rides a diff style than me, similar I guess but more bmx style moves, wall rides n that..His style has really changed since evolve. Not as good I dont think now. Do you know where to get info on them, and a dealer? Prices also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp101 Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 (edited) The STP was designed around his riding, that is both trials and street, so it is safe to say that it should be a good trials bike ( with the front fork removed ). All I know is; http://www.giant-bicycle.com/uk/000.000.000/000.000.000.asp ( http://www.giant-bicycle.com/uk/030.000.00...asp?model=10270 ) DISC model STP. no idea on the frame price, but look at this thing; http://www.giant-bicycle.com/uk/030.000.00...005&model=10145 I think the site has a dealer locator, if not..just call them up. http://www.bikepedlar.co.uk/acatalog/Giant...p_Bikes_05.html Edited October 13, 2005 by cp101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLATOUTSTYLE Posted October 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 The STP was designed around his riding, that is both trials and street, so it is safe to say that it should be a good trials bike ( with the front fork removed ). All I know is; http://www.giant-bicycle.com/uk/000.000.000/000.000.000.asp ( http://www.giant-bicycle.com/uk/030.000.00...asp?model=10270 ) DISC model STP. no idea on the frame price, but look at this thing; http://www.giant-bicycle.com/uk/030.000.00...005&model=10145 I think the site has a dealer locator, if not..just call them up. Yak, has stupid angles.......Long stays and a 69 degree head angle..WHAT???? Oh well nice try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endohopper Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 (edited) These chaps import and sell Czar's Ivan frame at 695 Euro ( ! ) Czar Ivan Frame They have a pretty sweet video of it in use , too . Amazing that no one has bought up the whole " XTP ripoff " accusations again . As stated above , though , this frame is unlikely to suit your style of riding . Nice photography , too . Edited October 14, 2005 by Endohopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLATOUTSTYLE Posted October 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 These chaps import and sell Czar's Ivan frame at 695 Euro ( ! ) Czar Ivan Frame They have a pretty sweet video of it in use , too . Amazing that no one has bought up the whole " XTP ripoff " accusations again . As stated above , though , this frame is unlikely to suit your style of riding . Nice photography , too . not suit, whys that???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 Can anybody tell me how much the CZAR Ivan frame is????? I like the look of it and maybe get 1...Although I ride street style...front wheels tricks, manuals etc so Im not quite sure if its suitable? Its here http://www.trialsin.com/sell/frames/czar/cframe.htm Long and low typically means shite manual-ability, and for just dicking around. The Czar is long and low. That's it, pretty much. Oh, and with the sus removed from that El Gasho Jeff Lenosky frame, the BB would rub the floor so much you'd basically be unable to pedal forwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endohopper Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 Correct Onzaboymark . Incidentally , did some further research and found this ... Gotta be said , that's one of the best lookin' bikes I've ever seen and I thought mine was well colour coded . :ermm: Silly Czar icon . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadly venom Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 I have to put in my two cents. I have read a lot of ribbing on this frame but I think it looks quite nice!! If it is of good quality and has good riding performance and fits a persons riding style I don't see what's wrong with it. With it coming down in price here in the U.S. from $675 to $440 I think I will add this to my list of possible frames. I guess now it's down to the Ivan, BT Raven 6.0 and the 2006 ZOO Pitbull. Ride on, Deadly Venom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLATOUTSTYLE Posted October 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 I have to put in my two cents. I have read a lot of ribbing on this frame but I think it looks quite nice!! If it is of good quality and has good riding performance and fits a persons riding style I don't see what's wrong with it. With it coming down in price here in the U.S. from $675 to $440 I think I will add this to my list of possible frames. I guess now it's down to the Ivan, BT Raven 6.0 and the 2006 ZOO Pitbull. Ride on, Deadly Venom Kool, I really like the look of it, looks really neat, tidy welds too. But I dont think its suited to my streety/Ryan Leech type style?????? Correct Onzaboymark . Incidentally , did some further research and found this ... Gotta be said , that's one of the best lookin' bikes I've ever seen and I thought mine was well colour coded . :ermm: Silly Czar icon . Certainly a kool looking bike for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towler Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 .. stupid stupid coloured cranks, sweet as in silver :ermm: thats an awesome price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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