Ali C Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 evening Basicly I am trying to persuade Brant at On-One to consider producing a 24" trials frame. He lives local to me and has connections with the bikeshop I work in, so I see fairly often. I showed him some ideas when he was in once and he seemed *slightly* interested. On-One make some mint xc frames and even a 24" dirt jump frame. I think they all sell for around £225, so a trials frame at the price would be mint. He did say that when he was sponsoring the Trialskings with Planet X they were thinking about making a 24" frame for Dan, but they left the team before it could be looked into further. (or somthing along those lines) so it shows he was interested at one point at least. Basicly I want people to either post here trying to persuade him to make it, or actually send him an email, I recken it would be silly for Brant not to pass on an oppertunity like this. His email can be found on the On-One web site (tell him I told you to lol :rolleyes: ) www.on-one.co.uk I have started a topic on their forum, if people who are interested could back me up it would be great. cya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Motivator Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 Ha, you could just send him a PM :rolleyes: He's on here somewhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted September 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 your missing the point, I have already met him in person and talked about it. I need as many people on here as possible to help put my point across that making the frame would be a good thing, at the mo there are only 2 24" frames out and the cheapest one is £400! A frame at nearly half that would be very popular I recken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Motivator Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 Oh yes, I definately agree :rolleyes: It would be great to see a cheaper 24" on the market. It sounds that Onza will soon have a cheap 24" with the Zoot, based on the T-Rex. A trials frame from on-one would be awesome though, as long as it doesn't have the tendancies of a Planet-X or the Ed Tounge Ashton. Steel all the way for 24" :S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 Well lets face it, recently Onza have been showing us the way foreward with some of the products its been producing: The ben slinger frame, the limey. I dont think its likely that Onza will have had such great success with these, and then make a stupid mistake with the zoot. Good things come in threes, but thats a crap reason A 24" trials bike which is equally at home with natural and street would push the sport even further. I know if I had the chance to be part of the reason as to how the sport got to these new lengths, I would jump at the opportunity straight away. Please make a 24" bike like Onza :rolleyes: Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackghostknife Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 MMM but Onza one wont be steal where as they on-one would be i guess... would b the shizzle and just good to get another bike make into trials :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicH_87 Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 sounds good Ali, i bet that loads of people would love to ride a 24" but its just not accesable enough. If the frames were cheaper and more available then it would give people that kick start they need to get a 24" sorted. i can see 24" bikes becoming more popular as the devide between some street trials and bmx gets smaller so companies who cash in now and build a good rep will deffinatly benefit from it. especially for less than £300, i bet people would just buy a 24" as a 'bit on the side' if they were cheap, i know i might. <_< good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tipsy Jock Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 Sounds like a plan Ali <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Clark Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 But what if he gets stressy and doesn't sell trials stuff to the UK anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 But what if he gets stressy and doesn't sell trials stuff to the UK anymore? Theres very few products Left that on-one make that interest the ever growing Trials community. Saying that, the Zebdi was amazing, i loved mine to pieces (litterally) and even converted it to 24" to see how it rode. whis was ever so nicely, odd like any 24, but astounding when you got used to it. the material has to be steel really, bumps up the price a bit, just for the strength thats needed for the way there meant to ride. if there was a cheap, steel 24" on the market, it would piss all over hotcakes Hes probably still pissed off about the whole zebdi warrenty issue, but saying "if you break it, we replace it" is quite a statement to live up to. could even sell it with no warrenty, if its a good frame, itll last enough to please most people, for how they use it (feather touch or sledgehammer). Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsking 55 Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 well if there going for that price he'll make a killing. and people are always looking for the next big frame in trials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quick_spider Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 To be honest, I'd be happier if Brant had nothing to do with the trials community ever again. I know another 24" frame would be nice, but hopefully Onza will fill the niche in the market. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 thanks every one, all imput is great <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIX Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 Im with quick spider on this one. The less trials see's of brant the better. He got all stressy and stop selling stuff in the UK any more and concentrating on things he considered to be more important than the uk. Its his own fault for not writing the bloody warranty right in the first place. Very unproffesional were the people I had to deal with in the company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 lol, never knew people had such grudges against him <_< He's northern, so he's always gonna be a little strange, but if a new frame was put out you wouldnt have to buy it, only people who cant afford leesons and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 To be honest, I'd be happier if Brant had nothing to do with the trials community ever again. I know another 24" frame would be nice, but hopefully Onza will fill the niche in the market. Jon why's that <_< bad experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Drewery Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 sounds good Ali, i especially for less than £300, i bet people would just buy a 24" as a 'bit on the side' if they were cheap, i know i might. <_< good luck. I would probably buy one too for something different and varied if it was cheap. Onza really have been pushing trials frame design lately, its the same with deng who owns echo, zoo, GU, Czar etc. They both think of how trials is going to be in the near future and go from there. If I bought a 24" it would have to be similar to the ashton and leeson frames as I associate 24" with street and not natural compy style frames/riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank_rider Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 I'm with all those who say that the less Brant has to do with trials as a sport the better. Several of us lived through the times when customer service became a joke whilst he was handling all the shenanigans with the px trials frames and i for one would hate to see another generation of trials riders put through what a lot of people were two or so years ago. Now i know it would be nice if there were more 24" frames in production, however this is the one person (apart from a certain PW) that i wouldnt like to see at the helm of a trials product line. His whole approach was wrong and quite often showed a level of maturity more of a young teenage trials rider rather than a company representative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 I'm with all those who say that the less Brant has to do with trials as a sport the better. Several of us lived through the times when customer service became a joke whilst he was handling all the shenanigans with the px trials frames and i for one would hate to see another generation of trials riders put through what a lot of people were two or so years ago. Now i know it would be nice if there were more 24" frames in production, however this is the one person (apart from a certain PW) that i wouldnt like to see at the helm of a trials product line. His whole approach was wrong and quite often showed a level of maturity more of a young teenage trials rider rather than a company representative. Not to mention that fun-tastic thread on Section7 which effectively divided the TrialsKings.com guys up. That sucked balls. I mean, I'm sure he's a nice guy and stuff "in real life", and some of the articles he's written in MBUK are cool, but whenever I've dealt with him on here or S7, he's just been a bit of a tool. Could just be different personalities I guess, but that whole "warranty issue" was a bit shite. I know people were still getting frames for £100, but if you get told it'll be free then it's a bit whack if it's actually a ton, in that people do buy frames for the warranty it seems. Either way, I'm all for new frames I guess. I fancy giving 24" a go, but can't stretch to a Leeson, and definitely not to the Curtis, so anything cheaper's fine by me, as long as Brant's sorta learned to deal with us wanker trials riders on the internet better :sick: Or as he called me, us "Gay bastards"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quick_spider Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 why's that :sick: bad experience? Yeah. Funnily enough it wasn't to do with frame failures. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 Rape? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials Punk Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 I'm with the people saying keep brant out of the trials industry over here. If the quailty of a 24" frame is going to be anything like the zebdi it will be utter sh*t. If the warrenty issues would be anything like the zebdi it would be utter sh*t. When I buy a frame I would usually expect it to last more than 4 odd months of light riding. It was a flipping street frame. I'd say not to bother, really isn't worth it. I'll stick with my leeson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOLO Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 I'm with the people saying keep brant out of the trials industry . yep sorry ALI but i can kinda see there point.. brant really isnt wanting to go near trials.. so i dont rekon its worth trying get get him where he doesnt want to be. also after peoples past experiences is it gona sell? and brant Hates me ! i dont hate him...... :S but what can you do !! but i can see why a 24" frame ALOT cheaper is needed in the market ! and i know a certain some1 who DOES want to fill it !! AND WILL ! iolo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 ok then, I can see people pont. even if he did produce a frame, I am begining to doubt people would buy it from the sounds of things. I am sure when a cirten company (or two) is up and running, there will be some grat value frames out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_Fel Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 If on-one did make a 24" frame it wouldn't be trials it would be shit bmx lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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