Heatsink Pads

[Tony Harrison]

I've been through 2 sets of the Honigs in about 4 weeks... so how do the new blue ones compare (preferable replies from people who've actually used them)? Also are they £10 plus P+P or £11 plus P+P? The site gives two prices.

Thanks.

[GuyJames]

Not sure about the pads themselves but there are two prices because the higher one includes airmail to a different country. The pads, if you live in the UK, will cost £11 including postage :)

Guy

[Joe Papasnap Maher]

I have just this minute got in the door, to check the post box and open a packet containing a pair , wooo lol

obviosly havnt used them, but they look good...fatmike was bumming them those, and i think they have been a thumbs up from everyone whos used them. :)

[Waynio]

yo snappel,

i have had some on for ages, iv just got to change them onto my new belaey bike, but on my levelboss i had them on for about 3weeks and they are awesum. put a fresh harsh grind and they have lasted well. the braking feel is good too and the pads grip pretty much fantastic im using a koxx rim with a grind too, on a harder rim like a ronnie or something the pads will probably lock up just as well, usually or from what i have heard from other people using most pads they find it hard to get the brakes working well on the koxx style rims.

only what i can advise you on mate but there awesum pads and there not like the konigs where if you put a harsh grind on the pads did tend to dissapear if you dragged the brake, but they did lock awesumly well.

Waynio........................

i just put pads in set em up and forget about em, the more you mess with it the worse it gets and the less confidence you have in the bike/brake. :) :)

[flipkickbs]

I'm runing them at the moment, they are amazing pads, not slipped once! :)

[Whiteboy]

gt miney yesterday. but had to cut them down slightly to make them fit in my frame and rim. and i guess thats why there not peformin brilliantly but il give them a chance to bed flat down again. they are really loud which is nice. they hold nicly goin forward its only when i put a a bit of force backwards that they slip but il put that down to me having to cut them they fell spongey aswell but prob due to cuttin aswell heheh :)

[Tony Harrison]

That's it then, I'm sold!!! I've seen the stuff you've been up to Wayne and if they hold on that kind of stuff then they're more than good enough for me.

Cheers guys.

[Luke Drewery]

I bought two pairs of honigs at £6 each when they were in the clearance sale and i wasnt impressed because of the wear life. Rather than bite and lock, they would just turn into dust which you could see around the pistons. Steve read my review and sent me a pair of blues to try for free and I still have them now about three months later and I am impressed with their overall performance. They have awesome bite (nice sound too), lock, wear rate is good and they look smart too with their stylish colour. :)

[Mark W]

My Blues were about 5mm deep. After a ride in Aberystwyth (about 3 1/2 hours riding, tops) they're now half that thickness.

They work really well, as long as it's not wet or you've got dusty crap on your rims, but just don't last long enough for me. Back to the Koxx Greens...

[tank_rider]

see my review in the pads section here

[IOLO]

these pads are brill, good hold, work REALLY well with a grind,,

but work fine without a grind as well,

(especialy seen as its always nice a dry here in spain, :) )

they seem to last pretty well too.

go get em !!

[Damon W]

i used them in the front on a smooth rim and there awesome, about the same performance as zoo pads. :( :angry:

BUT

my left side pad ripped off for some reason, maybe just unlucky, but Dan t-lite had em in for a bit and had to cut em down for his silly thin forks so maybe he slipped and cut em abit dodgy :) :D lol

tip top pads!

opt for them in the front on smooth rim, and, plazz in back on a grind! :(

Edited September 29, 2005 by Dw@Hulltrials

[munkee]

Since im very very sad.. ive been keeping track on how the heatsink pads are going.. purely because i have been tempted to buy some. However the reason i have yet to buy any is purely because there seems to be mixed reviews, not just from person to person but from "normal" riders.. and "sponsored" riders. Im not going to get in to who is bumming who.. or whatever. I am just totally confused as to what to think about the pads being produced. Steve sounds as if he has his head screwed on when it comes to the research, yet the reviews are always mixed. Not picking on anyone here but i took the time to collate the type of responses i have seen from wayne since i class him as a pro rider, who has been around a long time and undoubtedly a lot of pads.

honigs: only what i can advise you on mate but there awesum pads and there not like the konigs where if you put a harsh grind on the pads did tend to dissapear if you dragged the brake, but they did lock awesumly well.

blues: i have had some on for ages, iv just got to change them onto my new belaey bike, but on my levelboss i had them on for about 3weeks and they are awesum

honigs/konigs: the heatsink honigs/konigs that are soft compound would do, i know on the back with grinds and dragging the brake on they may wear out but on the front i rekon they will be awesum!!!!

honigs: go try a big gap and be positive then they will suprise you even more when they hold..........absolutly awesum.

honigs: personally i dont think heatsink needs to make any more pads than the Honigs and Konigs as both have been awesum for me. but hey others may have different opinions mine wore down spot on, didnt have any MAJOR premature wear problems.

honigs: Brake = working awesum pad wear rate quite fast = i dont care cos my brake is working WIKID!

konigs: heatsink red pads.................mine are awesum, on a grind or on a smooth rim. rain or shine the weather will never beat my brake.

The problem im seeing is... every pad so far seems to out do the other and to put it simply as wayne says, awesum. Im sure steve doesnt want riders to just bullshit and say pads are working good when they arent, hell we could all do with an ego clense once in a while but its not going to help with the research. Im just totally confused as to what pads are good and what are not, because quite frankly anything being released from steve gets "bummed" for the first week. Then once the honey moon period is over they get slated.

Another question/problem.. a point made by raub i beleive.. why are pads being sent out to riders when still in prototyping stage? no offence, but i dont actually know of any of the heatsink pads that have come out of prototyping. It just seems to me that as soon as a new colour pad has been "given out to the select few", any of these riders say they are amazing.. then they are being sold off for £14? £6? £10? £11?. To be fair i just dont see a decent pad being produced... and weve had it seems everything from batch A to Z... even the Sink/Tarty collaboration seems to have fizzled out. The blue pads may be great for most the riders that are using them at the moment.. but give it a few weeks and i will bet a lot of money that the views will all change.. it always does.

To put this simple.... banging out a shit load of pads, hearing biased reviews and releasing prototype pads isnt going to find the ultimate compound. Everyone loves feeling special being chosen to be a "tester" and thats why i beleive they arent going to give the straight facts. It just seems a very rushed affair that shouldnt be as its a wate of time ... and money. Which im sure by now is becoming a major issue and maybe recouping the losses is why the pads are being released so early?

Ive been running plazmatic pads now all summer.. and can honestly say its going to take something very special to steer me away, An interesting read in to how their testing evolved: http://www.plazmaticbrakes.com/history.php

[Tony Harrison]

Well Napoleon, thanks for taking the time to jot that down. I see where you're coming from - sponsored riders will put good words in for their sponsors, but in Wayne's case I'm going by what I've seen him get up to recently. My honigs wore down fast, but all the time I had them in they were excellent. One problem was that they were so grippy that bit by bit the calipers moved (and I'd done them up super tight) until the pads were wearing at an angle, meaning I only got half the usual life out of them.

I ordered the blues and I'll see how they go. If I don't like them, perhaps I'll try some Plaz pads - I run them on my BMX on chrome rims and they're spot on (unless its raining).

When I first started riding trials, Mavic CD rims and black pads seemed invincible.... but then, I'm used to having brakes that slip a bit. I often see people land on the corner of something and the brake slip, and they say 'Shitty brake, would've had that'. If my brake slips I just try again, aiming to get on the top rather than the corner. Does mean that when my brake works well I really appreciate it, although I think part of being a good rider is setting up your bike well, so blaming the bike just makes you look stupid.

Whatever, I'll just have to wait and see.

[Brian Bleech]

thread hijack alert - as this is about pads too!!

what pads would people reckonmend for street with a grind, i mean i will be doing manuals and stuff and what a pad that will last well, and won't just die on a grind with a bit of brake dragging (Y)

thinking about koxx browns at the mo, i want something that will work in the wet as winter is coming

mike

EDIT: vee or magura :-

Edited September 29, 2005 by leedstrials

[Brisa]

Koxx browns (Y)