ogre Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 £I'll say this first off i think that mbr mbuk and all other bike magazines are great except for the reviews of bikes i mean lets be ohnest for your average teen (13-16+) getting anywhere over £250 is nto normally an easy task. Or for that matter is it easy to persuade you parents etc to buy you a bike (ok maybe we'r arent all the same but my parents came from the day when a bike was to get from A to B and didnt cost to much either) which in some cases seem totally pointles (you have to agree that at first when you told your parents about trials and explained roughly what it was about and show them a video of some pro jumping on/off things although it's fun to see your over cautios mum look horified hehe) but ignoring all of that i was thumbing through an old mbuk and i got to a review of a bike and it wasn;t that special to be ohnest but it was like a grand, who ohnestly pays that for a bike? do you not think it is overkill, Maybe it's just me but none of these magazines are realistic do you agree>? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmowerman Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 They know a lot more about bikes than you so i guess you'd better believe them :) And you can spend over a grand and still have an average bike. There are frames for over a grand and the same goes for forks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted September 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Thay probably so know a lot more about bikes that me i never said that they didnt i just think that they arent realy "proper" (think thats the word i want) magazines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie-trials Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 I bought a onza t-bird for £50 it has lasted me well, ive learnt well on it, and it doesnt brake every second like some of my mates bikes so i find i have a good deal, but if i want to take it up a level i might have to think about investing in a bike for lets say £500 ish , but im fine at the mo, and yeah magazines usually are right because if they gave the wrong advice people would be complaining and the magazine would stop bieng published! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomass666 Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 The biking world is like fashion; At the top-end are stupid clothes but the style and parts of the clothes get passed on down to the high street shops. The top priced mountain bikes have all the parts and designs that our bikes will have in years to come. So even though most people cant buy them, expensive bikes are neccesary to keep bikes evolving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted September 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 The biking world is like fashion; At the top-end are stupid clothes but the style and parts of the clothes get passed on down to the high street shops. The top priced mountain bikes have all the parts and designs that our bikes will have in years to come. So even though most people cant buy them, expensive bikes are neccesary to keep bikes evolving. i think thats realy well put, but it still gives me the impression my bike is crap although it is fine and i'm always thinkin that it'll never be good etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 What bike do you have at the moment? The bike you saw that was a grand and wasn't too special, well what do you expect?! Mountain biking is a relitivly young sport, and things get cheaper with time. Look at the range of bikes available now with better components than bikes costing nearly twice as much a few years ago. Technology has changed, components have had new technology drip down into the cheaper components etc. I've seen plenty of kids on great bikes who are still young. If you can afford the best then why not buy it? Also, your point about your bike being fine for the moment may well be true, but once you upgrade you'll realise that there are much better things out there. You will, thats not just me saying that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshywa Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 yeah but its the top end bikes that make improvments in bike design and (eventualy) those design ideas show through in lower level bikes, dmr bikes are relitivley cheap and feel lush on jumps :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 you get what you pay for in most cases Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghosts_cloak Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 i mean lets be ohnest for your average teen (13-16+) getting anywhere over £250 is nto normally an easy task. (you have to agree that at first when you told your parents about trials and explained roughly what it was about and show them a video of some pro jumping on/off things although it's fun to see your over cautios mum look horified hehe) Hiya :D I think most teenages could afford £250 for a bike quite easily if they really wanted to. Back when I was in primary school I wanted a nice bike (xc bike! :) ) so I saved up my £3.50 rising to £5 pocket money every week and any gift money for 2 years and managed to scrape enough to buy a Cannondale F600 (new) xc bike by the start of high school! My point being it is an easy task (for your average teen, there are circumstances where its not possible!) if you are dedicated to riding :) If they choose to blow it on mobile phone credit and sweets etc then thats there problem! LOL, I know exactly what you mean about mums/grandparents faces - :D :P when I showed them what trials was :D :lol: ~Gaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smo™ Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 To be fair, at least they can speak the English language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishayton Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 how does a £1000 bike make you hate a magasine, look at all the top end riders in the world, there bikes are all up in the low 1000's, its what they are designed for, its not designed for young kids who want to buy a bike to ride around on. most bike magasines cover all types of bikes and prices brackets. take mbuk, 1 month they will review sub 400quid xc bikes and next months they reviewing 2000+ DH bikes. not everyone who buys MBUK is your age or has your budget. you buy what your happy with and leave the expensive bikes to riders who require that extra level of quality and performance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted September 25, 2005 Report Share Posted September 25, 2005 You say you hate magazines such as MBUK because they review bikes that are too expensive. Magazines such as MBUK are aimed mainly at bike riding enthusiasts, who are going to read the reviews because they want to know about all the latest and greatest kit on the market, the magazine isn´t benefitting if that bike then had 130 sales for example, they are simply reviewing a product, which people may go on to buy or find more information about it makes no difference to the magazine, they have done their purpose of informing readers of the new bikes on the market and what they think of them. So to say you hate the magazine is a bit of a strong statement i think as you would be surprised how many of the bikes they review do sell. Cheers, Dan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted September 25, 2005 Report Share Posted September 25, 2005 LOL, I know exactly what you mean about mums/grandparents faces - :) (Y) when I showed them what trials was :) (Y) ~Gaz Like this morning "dad can i "borrow" your angle grinder?" "why the hell do you want that?" "to grind my rim" "what the hell do you want to do with it you'll cut the bloddy thing in half" (nice sharp grind now (Y) ) Mountain Bikes magasines arn't going to advertise £50 bikes but dont slag them off because if you didn't have MBUK what would you read??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian Posted September 25, 2005 Report Share Posted September 25, 2005 why do you think some bikes and compnents canstantly get good reviews? (Y) if we slip you some cash you'll rate are bike good, so sometimes you have to watch it about there reviews especially mbuk and mbr (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lankyri Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Mountain Bikes magasines arn't going to advertise £50 bikes but dont slag them off because if you didn't have MBUK what would you read??? simp has got a very good point here, how many times has mbuk saved me from boredom in school, nearly every lesson. even though trials is not that popular at the moment if the number of riders increase then who knows where it could go, x games gravity games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dozza Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 personally i think that bikes at the thousand pound mark are realistic, given that they are probably not being marketed towards beginners/people who dont need such a bike. When you consider the componant upgrades you will make overtime your bike will soon have had a thousand bucks spent. It is true that many riders believe they need better componants than they do - annoyingly under the impression that they will be an amazing rider (when infact they are just posers) and i think manufacturers capitalise on that, with magazines not doing much to define what is overkill. I would love to see sections every 6 months with reviews on bikes for beginner/sport/advanced riders in different riding disciplines, so 3 best value bikes for trials suitable for respective riding level, and the same for dirt jumping/street and dh. I hate it when people see somebodys bike and assumes he's good, because theres plenty of riders who ride ghetto builds and ride damn well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lankyri Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 I hate it when people see somebodys bike and assumes he's good, because theres plenty of riders who ride ghetto builds and ride damn well. well said it is right though its not the bike you ride, but how you ride it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 yeah but its the top end bikes that make improvments in bike design and (eventualy) those design ideas show through in lower level bikes, dmr bikes are relitivley cheap and feel lush on jumps :P no, dmr's are average price and yes they do feel good on jumps but brand x frames feel better and are only 70 quid shock horror :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 personally i think that bikes at the thousand pound mark are realistic, given that they are probably not being marketed towards beginners/people who dont need such a bike. When you consider the componant upgrades you will make overtime your bike will soon have had a thousand bucks spent. It is true that many riders believe they need better componants than they do - annoyingly under the impression that they will be an amazing rider (when infact they are just posers) and i think manufacturers capitalise on that, with magazines not doing much to define what is overkill. I would love to see sections every 6 months with reviews on bikes for beginner/sport/advanced riders in different riding disciplines, so 3 best value bikes for trials suitable for respective riding level, and the same for dirt jumping/street and dh. I hate it when people see somebodys bike and assumes he's good, because theres plenty of riders who ride ghetto builds and ride damn well. Well i ride a £300 pound bike and im loving it!!! just dont be so derastic and have such deep veiws its not good to publisise it on a forum. MBUK isn't for beginners. So don't diss it, MBUK is trials riders only choice, like trials forum is our only place to chat round the clock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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