Siders77 Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 He could have said it in a better way though. That's why I got annoyed with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIX Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 When people act like cocks, then they are normally a cock. Its pointless arguing with a cock, especially over the web. So Im not, Im just pointing out that he is being a cock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-L-B Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 (edited) You're obviously insecure about something? Mummy didn't breast feed you enough/too much? Oh no it makes sense now, your father ran off with another woman or used to hit your mum, probably when you were what - 4 years old? leaving your Oedipus complex unresolved and you associated with the behaviors of your father. I think you've proved that you're less intelligent than the 15 year old on this subject. Your, "witty" retorts only reinforce this with sweeping overgeneralizations such as Wayne Rooney MUST be a genius - failing to grasp the meaning behind what I said. You then go on to rearrange someones post to make him look like a fool - making other people look small (and thus in your mind you big) is stereotypical of someone who is insecure with themselves. Your name under you avatar is "butt pilot" Hummm yea mature aint you! So yea seems nearly everyone - you included - thinks Adam is the guy to talk to! (Oh and don't call me a child, I'm 26) Insecure? Right, because I was the one getting all defensive and lashing out... ;) Clearly it is you who failed to grasp what I was saying when I used Wayne Rooney as an example. Again, another person cannot articulate themselves well enough to not have to resort to cheap personal jibes, this time bringing my family into it.. :D The purpose of your post:making other people look small (and thus in your mind you big) is stereotypical of someone who is insecure with themselves. Im just pointing out that he is being a cock. so, you don't like being impersonated. Is that all you lot can say? blatant crappy flaming and personal insults. Truly pathetic. Edited September 22, 2005 by D-L-B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyroo Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Wheres onzaboymark when you need him? *clears proverbial throat, and starts to talk in Marks proverbial voice* Handbags at dawn on MSN please ladies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMonkey Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 *clears proverbial throat, and starts to talk in Marks proverbial voice* Talking like a freshly bummed gay then. BWHAHAHAHAHA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 (edited) so to summarise, and finalise this topic there are a few people who you may consider to build your wheels, these are as follows: yourself, taking the time and effort may lead to a bad wheel,but its all practise and could allow you to save money. Adam Read : builds very good wheels, will charge, but worth it. maybe not THE best wheel builder, but has a talent. Local Bike Shop : will charge roughly the same as adam, however depending on the ability of the mechanic, may or may not be a wheel build to last up to trials. Other mechanics : Sheldonbrown.com, will lead you to building your own wheels, some others in this topic mentioned by D-L-B may be good wheel builders also although may still charge 15-20£ sterling. EDIT plus the cost of spokes and nipples, leading to around 25-35£ please take the advice and use it well. many thanks ben Edited September 22, 2005 by ben@hulltrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-L-B Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 If you fancy having a go yourself, (you've got to start sometime) have a gander at Sheldon Brown as mentioned earlier and also you could look at Spoke Calculator although they probably won't have the trials specific rims you're likely to be using listed on there you could find a rim with a similar depth to use as a guide when calculating. If you're still not confident then get it done by a proffessional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 (edited) has a talent Or has just spent time learning the best methods and techniques. Edited September 22, 2005 by snappel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-L-B Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 (edited) has a talent. I too have a disliking for that word. It is often misused. I feel the word skill or ability would be much more apt in most situations. To say something is simply down to 'talent' is to almost deny them of the praise they're worthy of. Since, you are basically saying "they can and you can't" as if it's that simple, instead of acknowledging the time/effort/determination that it also takes to be truly great at something. Dan Edited September 22, 2005 by D-L-B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 haha, cheers guys, i do like what you have to say, i was just trying to get the topic finalised, its a stupid topic as its always going to start arguements. meh ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MesaMan Posted September 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 LOL this post has made my day, narhh week. Pure class. It's hard to get sarcasm and the delicate intricacies of a point across on the web sometimes. I think we're all as bad (or good) as each other, I guess it's the people who don't take it to heart are the ones who came out of this best. Anyway glad to see we're actually talking about wheels nearly 3 pages later! What kind of spokes do you guys recommend? I've always thought building a wheel way to hard to get "perfect" (by that I mean strong and as straight as can be) without taking many years!? I'll deffo check out that site - cheers. -R- http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php?date=2004-03-19&res=l Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 double butted stainless steel spokes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canned Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Maybe you should all consider that someone has asked a quesiton and you've hijacked their post with childishness - and before someone points it out, it's be childish to say who started it.... Just leave the post alone for the people looking for info... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MesaMan Posted September 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 I get the double butted stainless bit, but what gauge? Chris King hub 32 spoke, I guess 14 gauge? Any particular make spoke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIX Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 DT or sapim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Good question - I bought 1.8-2.0mm DT's and they were a bit tight in the Chris King flanges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIX Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Sapim sit in to the flanges much better. :D On a King at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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