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[deadly venom]

Urpedigreechumdog, mathuds0,

I really don't won't a street frame. I don't plan to ride street anyway. I wanted to get into natural trials because of the variety of things to ride on. As much as I like flatland, want to get into trials to break up the monotony. I do not want to go back to street. I 've had enough street riding, that's why I switched to mostly flatland in the first place.

I have looked into a complete bike. The Zoo Pitbull is looking nice. The price is around $1350 American. I have just been so use to building up my own bike I just naturally looked at a frame first.

I don't know if the Onza, Curtis, Pashleys and Revells frames are widely available in the United States or not. Frame/bikes such as Echo, Zoo, Koxx and BT are easier to get a hold of.

Rock on,

Deadly Venom

[poopipe]

I'm getting a bit out my depth now - never having had a go on those frames (except the toxsin with the single top-tube which I really liked)

I suggested a streety frame because they're usually made out of thicker metal and you seemed worried about breakage - that said, 'learner damage' on natural stuff is going to be less pronounced than on streety stuff - what with the lack of sharp corners, concrete etc.

Like most people on here I'm sure you'll just end up riding over anything that gets in your way - street or natural. It's not a completely different game as soon as you find some rocks to bounce up.

[Brian Bleech]

Frame/bikes such as Echo, Zoo, Koxx and BT are easier to get a hold of.

Rock on,

Deadly Venom

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you are obviously worried about your frame breaking and out of the ones you listed I would avoid the higher end koxx frames (xtp, etc) as these tend to be lighter comp bikes.

But the koxx levelboss is a strong bike, as are the echo, zoo, and BT. Personally I would go for a something with around a 1040-1080 wb to start with.

Mike