nb88 Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Buying a standard chris king classic hub with an aluminium drive shell, all standard stuff.....is this ok for trials? ive heard upgrading to heavy duty axles is good but is it needed for trials? and how much does it cost? Are aluminium drive shells ok compared to steel, and do they cost much to replace? Thanks. Noz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishayton Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Right get the Heavy duty axle and steel freehub body, you will regret it otherwise as they will break / damage fast. where you getting it from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 how about u run it for a week or two, and see how it goes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todge Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 Chris King (IMO) are the biggest waste of money there is. You pay a lot of money for a hub, which in its standard state probably isnt good enough for trials, so they make you pay even more money to "upgrade" it to what you need. Eg, Fun Bolts, King Cog, Steel driveshell (extras probably around the £100 mark to add on). I have recently got myself a Profile (the one that fits on mods) on my stock and you get, for a much smaller fee, big bolts on the axle, wide based sprocket, a very solid reliable hub, with more hten enough engagements. I cant see why everyone wants to pay sooooo much for a King, then be ripped off by having to buy other bits to make it withstand trials use, when hubs from other brands already come with the same kind of stuff. Feel free to argue back (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducko Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 i have a profile rear hub and ive had a few problems with it, i had a king on my mod and didnt have one probelm. the profile is very good! but if you want the best and a nice comp bike get a king! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nb88 Posted September 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 This is going on a stock btw... im gettin it off ebay hopefully for around £100... so its not expensive. but if i have to upgrade it loads i could just get a dmr revolver hub and an eno freewheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janson Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 im sure the alu driveshell and std. axle will work. it does. i bought my king hub with hd axle and steel driveshell. i think it was worth it, and hope to have a hub that lasts a fair while. my hub has skipped a fair few times, but that is apparently mostly down to my ignorance, as i am a lazy f**k and can't be arsed with bedding the hub in riding xc/road. i built it up, and rode trials on it straight out of the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatmike Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 Providing you use either a king kog, or a decent quality cassette, which is mounted on a carrier, an alu cassette body is fine. Even the bmx and singlespeed hubs have an alu one, without an option for steel! The standard axles do the job, and if you don't put masses of stress on them, they'll last a while, but when they do snap, send it back to king, and pay some extra money to upgrade it. It's not loads. (Y) Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 but when they do snap, send it back to king, and pay some extra money to upgrade it. ← No point when you can fit it yourself, just order the bits from bromley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_P Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 Chris King (IMO) are the biggest waste of money there is. You pay a lot of money for a hub, which in its standard state probably isnt good enough for trials, so they make you pay even more money to "upgrade" it to what you need. Eg, Fun Bolts, King Cog, Steel driveshell (extras probably around the £100 mark to add on). I have recently got myself a Profile (the one that fits on mods) on my stock and you get, for a much smaller fee, big bolts on the axle, wide based sprocket, a very solid reliable hub, with more hten enough engagements. I cant see why everyone wants to pay sooooo much for a King, then be ripped off by having to buy other bits to make it withstand trials use, when hubs from other brands already come with the same kind of stuff. ← I couldn't of put i better myself! There are some real good riders who use hopes etc and they do just fine. Kings are very nice with lovely engagment but I cant see myself spending that much on a poxy hub! It's not like its gonna make you instantly better or give you super gapping powers :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatmike Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 No point when you can fit it yourself, just order the bits from bromley. ← Send the AXLE back to king. Why spend nearly £100 on a hd axle, bolts, and collar?! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 Chris King (IMO) are the biggest waste of money there is. You pay a lot of money for a hub, which in its standard state probably isnt good enough for trials, so they make you pay even more money to "upgrade" it to what you need. Eg, Fun Bolts, King Cog, Steel driveshell (extras probably around the £100 mark to add on). I have recently got myself a Profile (the one that fits on mods) on my stock and you get, for a much smaller fee, big bolts on the axle, wide based sprocket, a very solid reliable hub, with more hten enough engagements. I cant see why everyone wants to pay sooooo much for a King, then be ripped off by having to buy other bits to make it withstand trials use, when hubs from other brands already come with the same kind of stuff. Feel free to argue back i stand by that man!!!!! :P :huh: no one can argue with you todge as not many people have used profile hubs. but i totally agree with what you are saying, most people will say why wots wrong with chris kings and with the experiences i had with mine i would NEVER EVER use one again. i was nearly RIP'in. Waynio..................... some thing simple and tried and tested i will always stick by, pawls and springs all the way (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nb88 Posted September 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 Are the profile hubs good on 26" then? I had a mod one and it was awesome.....but i heard it still only has 4 pawls on the 26" when 6 is way more reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_P Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 I cant say i've ever really seen many people with a 26" profile. I know one guy in plymouth had one but his blew up after not very long, and there a lot more expencive as well! I think people just rather spend there money on kings! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tipsy Jock Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 Are the profile hubs good on 26" then? I had a mod one and it was awesome.....but i heard it still only has 4 pawls on the 26" when 6 is way more reliable. ← The mod one only has 4..... :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 4 is reliable enuff and was for me, i went mental when i had my profile.........the engagement was good and the hub sounded great, both of mine are still going strong today with other people, all they have done is put fresh pawls and springs in them. they are really really good, keep your eyes peeled on the new hope hub after many months of saying "they should use the leaf spring design like profile" hope have actually used the same ratchet system. :P :huh: woowooo. Waynio.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroMatt Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 Why not just get a hope, when it breaks send it back and it shall be fixed for free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_P Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 Mint!! How long before we see this new hub? Sounds good How many engagments? Rob :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroMatt Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 they are really really good, keep your eyes peeled on the new hope hub after many months of saying "they should use the leaf spring design like profile" hope have actually used the same ratchet system. :P :huh: woowooo. ← I take it this is not the new trials one thats meant to have come out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urpedigreechumdog Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 Can anyone point me in the direction of some info on the hope trials hub and whatever other new hubs from hope too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tipsy Jock Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 I take it this is not the new trials one thats meant to have come out ← Yes, But its still a prototype though, Has been due out since xmas roughly. I'm not bothered though, its going to be mint when it does come out :huh: Also what happened to the Middleburn hub? I remember that had problems but should be due out hopefully, hope it hasn't been scraped :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_P Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 (edited) Ok im wrong then Edited September 3, 2005 by Rob P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroMatt Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 Yes, But its still a prototype though, Has been due out since xmas roughly. I'm not bothered though, its going to be mint when it does come out :huh: Also what happened to the Middleburn hub? I remember that had problems but should be due out hopefully, hope it hasn't been scraped :P ← I thought they had brought some out, or is this a new one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyzplace Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 As were on the subject, what happened to the zoo! hub? (that 7-(was it) of set pawl jobbie) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted September 3, 2005 Report Share Posted September 3, 2005 the trials hub is not avaialble for another few months they are still testing the final one as far as i am aware. Waynio.................... 48 ep. :P :huh: id rather run mono hubs with 24 ep you can put 2 springs in each carrier so that the power of the double springs pushes the pawl into the ratchet ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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