Dan-Walker Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 what percentage do you guys think these are below: technique %= size/strength%= thanks dan. (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 I would say around 80% technique and 20% size/strength. Joel (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Drewery Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 You should have added mentality onto the list. I would say; 75% mentality 15% technique 10% size/strength Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 (edited) 75% mentality 15% technique 10% size/strength ← That's silly. Trials is mostly mental? Don't think so. 90% Technique 6% having the balls 4% strength Of corse it depends on the type of riding you do, but trials is mostly about technique. Edited August 28, 2005 by JT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Drewery Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 I suppose, but i'm just saying thinking you can do things and believing you can make a move all have a part to play in your performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 if you bring having balls into it it needs to be a higher % but some categories could be higher or less. id break it down to the four below. if i did it i think it would be: 20% balls 50% technique 20% size strength 10% being creative Waynio................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishayton Posted August 28, 2005 Report Share Posted August 28, 2005 hmm wayne do younot think strength should be a bit more than 20% look at all top natural riders and they are incredibly well built, not huge but very toned and very strong. ceaser is a great example, just look at that guy hes like a short arsed brick wall but problably tougher. id say 60% technique and 40% strength, but only for top end of riding ie 'pro' level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTrialSpaz Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 It depends, if you want to advance and get better it's about 60% technique 20%stregnth/balls. Without the courage you willl never get better but if you are doing the same stuff over and over it's probably about 90% technique 10% stregnth at beginner level and abut more evened out at pro. Then again I could just be talking bull**** (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxer1 Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 (edited) id say, mentallity=70% technique=5% strength=5% balls=20%` id say its all in the once u've learned all the move and that and strength is not a big factor, i'm a pretty strong guy off my bike, but i cant throw my bike around that well, and size is definatley nothing to do with it! Edited August 29, 2005 by Boxer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nafan Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 (edited) Mentality = 15% Strength = 25% Technique = 60% Waynio you're right, definitely creativity that's one of my problems I have to ask my mates to help me out (Y) :D :P Edited August 29, 2005 by nafan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rupertsub2003 Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 i would say creativity : 60 strength : 40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mod_rider Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Trials is nowhere near 70% mentality, its technique and balance, mixed with strength and whatever that special kind of muscle is that people were talking about a few months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesoupdragon182 Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Trials is just one big mind game once you have got the basics its all about getting you head aroud it and then doing it but the only differance between side hoping up a curp and a 40" wall is in your head as its all the same technique Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 I suppose, but i'm just saying thinking you can do things and believing you can make a move all have a part to play in your performance. ← Yeah but not to the extent where you think you can do a move you can do it. If you think you can do a 6ft gap, but you haven't got the technique to do it. Using pure thought wont get you accross. hmm wayne do younot think strength should be a bit more than 20% look at all top natural riders and they are incredibly well built, not huge but very toned and very strong. ceaser is a great example, just look at that guy hes like a short arsed brick wall but problably tougher. id say 60% technique and 40% strength, but only for top end of riding ie 'pro' level ← You really don't need strenghth. You definatly need explosive power. Trials is at least 90% technique. For exaple a pro runner would probably be very good at cycling. (MTBin Road biking). But if you got a pro runner on a trials bike, he couldn't probably ride forward due to their been no seat. Not to mention gapping sidehopping etc. When do you ever say, i can't do this becuase i haven't got the strength. When your out riding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhenoVenom Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 (edited) I'd say 90 % Technique 5 % Strenght 5 % Mentality 0 % Balls Seems to me some people are saying that you won't progress if you don't have enough balls, I must disagree, dropping from 10 feet doesn't make you a better rider than someone who drops with perfect technique but only from 4 feet. Edited August 29, 2005 by PhenoVenom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 I'd say 90 % Technique 5 % Strenght 5 % Mentality 0 % Balls Seems to me some people are saying that you won't progress if you don't have enough balls, I must disagree, dropping from 10 feet doesn't make you a better rider than someone who drops with perfect technique but only from 4 feet. ← I'd be a much better rider if i had more confidence (aka balls) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 I say it depends on the person: TRA : 30% skill 70% strength CLS 80% skill 20% strength Benito ros 50% skill 50% technique (OK unsure on that one) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishayton Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 Yeah but not to the extent where you think you can do a move you can do it. If you think you can do a 6ft gap, but you haven't got the technique to do it. Using pure thought wont get you accross. You really don't need strenghth. You definatly need explosive power. Trials is at least 90% technique. For exaple a pro runner would probably be very good at cycling. (MTBin Road biking). But if you got a pro runner on a trials bike, he couldn't probably ride forward due to their been no seat. Not to mention gapping sidehopping etc. When do you ever say, i can't do this becuase i haven't got the strength. When your out riding? ← you dont need strength?? ok then ...... trials takes alot of strength, tell you what do a comp and then come back and say you dont need strength, strength isnt just lifting weights you know its about having the stamina and power in your muscles to move you bike around. strength is useless without technique, but when technique is mastered the strength gives you the ability to move faster higher and further Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 (edited) Dropping= Technique - 2% Strength- 2% How big your bollocks are - 96% Gapping= Timing- 20% Vision- 20% Technique- 20% Strength- 20% (Crate gapping) 20% balls and faith Up= 40%- vision 30% pre coil and strength 20% Technique 10% weight position Edited August 29, 2005 by pissin_on_the_fence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 you dont need strength?? ok then ...... trials takes alot of strength, tell you what do a comp and then come back and say you dont need strength, strength isnt just lifting weights you know its about having the stamina and power in your muscles to move you bike around. strength is useless without technique, but when technique is mastered the strength gives you the ability to move faster higher and further ← I have done a comp befor. If you got someone really strong on bike, they're not going to be able to ride that much better. Obviously your need some sort of strength but i just don't think it matters. In fact it's probably more benifical to be weaker, less muscle mass so your lighter. Someone really strong isn't going to improove faster than someone who is realitivly weak are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mink Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 That's silly. Trials is mostly mental? Don't think so. 90% Technique 6% having the balls 4% strength Of corse it depends on the type of riding you do, but trials is mostly about technique. ← Surely having the balls is mental. You need to believe you can do something (or not kill yourself trying) to attempt it. It's mostly technique until you have a move perfected then it's about strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishayton Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 I have done a comp befor. If you got someone really strong on bike, they're not going to be able to ride that much better. Obviously your need some sort of strength but i just don't think it matters. In fact it's probably more benifical to be weaker, less muscle mass so your lighter. Someone really strong isn't going to improove faster than someone who is realitivly weak are they? ← what you weigh is not important is you have the strength to make up for it, but the strength you have will help you to perform moves big Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9bushdy Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 if you bring having balls into it it needs to be a higher % but some categories could be higher or less. id break it down to the four below. if i did it i think it would be: 20% balls 50% technique 20% size strength 10% being creative Waynio................... ← i agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Didn't Mr Ashton famously state that it was all about : 34% Practice 33% Practice 33% Practice :huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff... Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Practise is the key, and so it determination. Cheers Kyle. :huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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