Maguras

[JT!]

The power of a magura can easily be increased but it has to sacrifice some of it's movement. And visa versa. Just wondering if people want more power. Or if some people find that the blocks are set too close to the rim, and therefor cause problems so they would like more movement. Or if they are stop on as they are.

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[Will Arnold]

mine could be made more powerfull at the sacrifice of movement, they move far more than they need to :closedeyes:

[CurtisRider]

mine could be made more powerfull at the sacrifice of movement, they move far more than they need to :closedeyes:

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but what about when/if your wheel buckles, and you dont have a spoke key handy, ull be buggered-less movement means the pads will have to be closer to the rim, so the rims will have to be perfectly true.....at a guess a fair few riders run buckled wheels(well judging by the ones ive seen on big rides ha ha) so this will surely be a problem

but yeah maguras need more power i feel, cos their current power is pretty poor for a trials brake....surely a redesign on the lever making it longer like an rb one to create more leverage would be a better solution?

[Will Arnold]

but what about when/if your wheel buckles, and you dont have a spoke key handy, ull be buggered-less movement means the pads will have to be closer to the rim, so the rims will have to be perfectly true.....at a guess a fair few riders run buckled wheels(well judging by the ones ive seen on big rides ha ha) so this will surely be a problem

but yeah maguras need more power i feel, cos their current power is pretty poor for a trials brake....surely a redesign on the lever making it longer like an rb one to create more leverage would be a better solution?

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my wheel never buckles :closedeyes: since i got into mod riding, my wheel has never got out of true more that 1mm, mods rock :angry:

and the pads are already about a mile from the rim anyways....

Will

[Luke Rainbird]

Assume you're talking about the 2005 HS33s? :closedeyes:

[Simpson]

but what about when/if your wheel buckles, and you dont have a spoke key handy

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Wouldn't you just pick up a 5mm allen and move the pads further away as a tempory bodge till you got home???

[nb88]

I think its fine as it is. Powerful enough with good pads and a grind, and if it was more powerful then it would have problems like mushyness and harder to set up.

[CurtisRider]

my wheel never buckles :closedeyes: since i got into mod riding, my wheel has never got out of true more that 1mm, mods rock  :angry:

and the pads are already about a mile from the rim anyways....

Will

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fair enough but thats just you....other people do get problems as some have wank wheelbuilds (N) and yeah my wheels (mod or stock) never buckle either as i can build them nicely now:) so i wouldnt get a problem just like you

all im saying is when i ran maguras i had to run the pads damn close to the rim, to advoid using the tpa as much, any further away and it wudnt fully lock

Wouldn't you just pick up a 5mm allen and move the pads further away as a tempory bodge till you got home???

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then that stops you riding......id rather have a brake that i could use if my wheel was to buckle

ok small glitch to some maybe, it doesnt affect me at all as i dont like maguras and would never run 1 if i could help it, but it was purely a suggestion that i was making-either way, maguras need more power but that would result in the need for better boosters? cos there would be more force on the frame? well thats what sems to happen with rb levers, they create much more power and you can see the boosters being flexed which measn they lose power....which takes you back to the beggining again where we are now-you get me?

[JIX]

surely a redesign on the lever making it longer like an rb one to create more leverage would be a better solution?

Kurt Brain use to weld extra bits on to his levers to create a longer blade and hence more leverage. Is a good idea. Like hope disc levers are long.

Mind you I think maggy levers would start cracking a touch more with longer blades.

Personaly I think they are powerful enough the way they are, and the NOZ is right, if you try to make them more powerful you sacrifice the feel. Like the mono trial, that has a softer feel at the lever because of the ratio's.