dave33 Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 yes the bar on a dh bike is to keep the disc floating and not compress the sus whne braking, aslo the froce which kills frames is when you land on eadge of summt and the wheel is pulling back on the disc/frame, likle when you back wheel summit and extend ur body. i used to run an m4 and it was an amazing brake better than any magura, BUT it snapped 4 frames so i gave up on it, i did as lesson if he could make me a frame with the disc between the stays but the m4 was to big to fit. BUT now that the magura marta is around it would fit betwen the stays, and they have loads of power, i do wish they were out when i had my disc, oh well would be to much expence for me to get one now so im not going to bother. :sleeping: oh thats a bit long,sorry for going on and on and on and on :"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Motivator Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 yeah i was thinking that - like the old hope torsion arms that ashton/hawyes had for a while - old skool :sleeping: ← That was one of these; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 That was one of these; ← do you know how much that costs sam? and where do you buy it from? im thinking of getting one and modding it :sleeping: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Looks good, though with that torsion bar it looks like the disk mount was an after thought rather than a specifically designed frame. Have you seen the Peyto rear mounts? They're designed specifically for an Avid and have post mounts rather than having an IS mount plus the adaptor. Anyways, let us know how it goes. Is there any problems with spoke flex/caliper flex? You running full length outer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_P Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Lookin sweet as a nutt!! Cant wait to ride the badass tomorrow (Y)" :- :sleeping: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Pearson Posted August 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 I see there are some mixed views on the frame, well I've been out riding for a couple of hours, so heres the lo-down: The frame itself is beautiful. I used to ride a 995mm leeson and this one has a 1030mm wheelbase, so nothing stupidly bigger, but the differnce is noticeable; front taps, coust-hops, sidehops, I've pretty much equalled or gone higher than any I'd ever done before. The disc: Is amazing. The bite when you go for a front tap isn't amazing, but I think thats down to individual technique rather than anything about the bike. Rolling gaps, coust-hops, the brake just didn't budge, yet I could manual further and smoother than I have ever been able to do with rim brakes. All in all I'm increadibly happy with it and nothing looks to be going wrong. I know people are sceptical about the mounts or frame snapping due to the disc, but I think thats one of those things where time will tell, and if the disc just keeps getting better and better as it seems to be, it'll be a gamble worth taking. NOTE: This is a prototype frame which will probably not be available to the public (doesn't seem much demand for them), if things go wrong, or if people have any input that they think will be helpful in making a better frame it will always be welcome. If you've never tried a bike with a rear disc because 'everyone knows maguras are the best,' just try one and see, you may hate it, but you may be pleasently surprised. I know I have been. (Have just read that back and I'll count the seconds before someone accuses me of advertising for leeson...). Glad people have taken the frame in a good natured way (on the whole...). Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Booth Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Looks good, Would look better if the 'torsion bar' was fully mounted to the frame, and black aswell. Glad you like it Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 That was one of these; ← The thread on OTN where someone put one of them on and it just launched the brake mount off the seat-stays worries me about the usage of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIX Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Whats a coust hop?? It does look like a nice frame, the only thing I would say is to have the mounts in between the chain and seat stays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott-mad Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 looks sweet should get two gothic rotors for it :- looks nice as fook. how much was it? :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Campbell Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Rich that looks minty. If the rear disk is anything like it used to be on the old frame it will be awsome. There is a strange feeling with rear disks but the avid used to bite so damn hard it just didn't matter. hope it lasts out :- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bquamb Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Thats a Sick bike :- :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Pearson Posted August 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Whats a coust hop?? ← Its where you do a rolling gap on a flat piece of ground before a wall/rock/bench and then as the back wheel lands and the brake locks you kick again with the pedals to place the front wheel on top of said obstacle and then switch to the back wheel... The thing Neil Tunnicliffes really good at and the coust brothers came up with, ergo, 'a coust hop.' (N) looks sweet should get two gothic rotors for it :( looks nice as fook. how much was it? :- ← I'm getting some normal hope M4 rotors for it, a bit lighter and a bit nicer. It's very hard for me to discuss how much this frame costs because its a prototype, but all I can say is if you wanted one, it would cost you more than I paid for it, which was a little over the normal price of a leeson frame. :- Rich that looks minty. If the rear disk is anything like it used to be on the old frame it will be awsome. There is a strange feeling with rear disks but the avid used to bite so damn hard it just didn't matter. hope it lasts out :) Dan ← Its amazing when its dry now its kind of bedded in, in the wet it'll be unreal, which is why I wanted it (damn hampshire comps...) Dan, I garuantee, as soon as you see this in the flesh, you'll want one. :( Or at least you'll really really like it. :P :o Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe b Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Oh my god! That is the nicest stock bike i have ever seen. Pro's over now for the con's i think its a bit gay that because monty have made awesome duel disc bikes that everyone else are gonna start trying it. I mean dont get me wrong, it was always gonna happen. But they could have released it a bit later on. Then they would seem less like a 'copy', if you get me. :- but that is a gorgeous bike mate, well done! Cheers, Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Tupman Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Oh my god! That is the nicest stock bike i have ever seen. Pro's over now for the con's i think its a bit gay that because monty have made awesome duel disc bikes that everyone else are gonna start trying it. I mean dont get me wrong, it was always gonna happen. But they could have released it a bit later on. Then they would seem less like a 'copy', if you get me. :- but that is a gorgeous bike mate, well done! Cheers, Joe. ← This bike has been on the cards for a very long time thought and Megamo made disk specific frames years before Monty so I see no problems there. Looks very smart rich although isn't it a bit long for you :- I look forward to riding it on sunday. matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Looks good, though with that torsion bar it looks like the disk mount was an after thought rather than a specifically designed frame. Have you seen the Peyto rear mounts? They're designed specifically for an Avid and have post mounts rather than having an IS mount plus the adaptor. Anyways, let us know how it goes. Is there any problems with spoke flex/caliper flex? You running full length outer? ← :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 I would probably be more worried about ripping the disc tabs off backwards, rather than breaking the frame by forcing it too far forwards. Having said that, at least it's something new, keep us updated :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 lesson had a disc ages ago was a c2 mounted between the stays, well before any others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picki Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 nokon outers...ben lees is a mutha fahooker.... looks super duper that does i like the bar idea... could you get a piccy of where its actually bolted? to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
011001000110010101110010 Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Rich, clive has made a megamo... :- Nothing new behind the idea, but its still good and shouldn't mean your frame will snap in two so quick. :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 is the disk mount replaceable? it looks from the pictures that one section can be removed n replaced? also, why are you getting it for cheaper than everyone else? just wondering :- ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonno Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 :- :- :) SEX on wheels...i want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
br3n Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 haha cousts didnt invent it, tis old skoolin!!!! They just started doing it stupid huge so people noticed it more :P ie.. you.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burrows Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Looked pretty nice when I saw it at Clives, hope it lasts well. Mines way more interesting though :P (pics soon) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
011001000110010101110010 Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Looked pretty nice when I saw it at Clives, hope it lasts well. Mines way more interesting though :P (pics soon) ← Ah the porter head tube? :) Can't wait to see it. I was talking to Tic about the little information that is known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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