Rich Pearson Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 ...and its all mine. :- Sorry, bragging aside, a few months ago I asked clive about trying something new with double discs and we put our heads together with a few ideas drawn on the back of cigarette packets and napkins, clive went away and built a frame. This is what he made: Bolt through rear axel, avid rear disc mounted on an extra station between the seat and chainstays, with a torsional stress transition between the disc mount and the BB. 1030mm long, 385mm chainstay, 0mm BB rise, and it rides like a dream... Video will be out soon, Oh, and I'm sorry if some people think this should be in the bike pics thread but I thought this was something a little more special than the average frame, considering at the moment, its the only one in the world. (Y) All comments welcome. :sleeping: Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmowerman Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Thats gorgeous! Wont that rear disc glaze? avids have a habit of doing that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 ...and its all mine. :- Sorry, bragging aside, a few months ago I asked clive about trying something new with double discs and we put our heads together with a few ideas drawn on the back of cigarette packets and napkins, clive went away and built a frame. This is what he made: Bolt through rear axel, avid rear disc mounted on an extra station between the seat and chainstays, with a torsional stress transition between the disc mount and the BB. 1030mm long, 385mm chainstay, 0mm BB rise, and it rides like a dream... Video will be out soon, Oh, and I'm sorry if some people think this should be in the bike pics thread but I thought this was something a little more special than the average frame, considering at the moment, its the only one in the world. (Y) All comments welcome. :sleeping: Rich ← also known as a bar :o :- thtas one sweet lookin' bike there! whats the rear disk like power wise? better than maggie? cheers Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Cook Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 thats ace! Whats the rear disc like on the back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Mint. That's what everyone should be riding. We should bin all these shitty aluminium boats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Motivator Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 IF your avid ever explodes (which it probably will after about 2 years) get an Avid Juicy Seven.. The have the same mounting and pads as a BB7. Mine has just as much bite/lock as my old bb7 and amazingly it NEVER glazes and stops working. Very lush bike btw!!! I love! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Jones Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 (Y) Nuff sed! Naa, thats bloody lush, nice colour too! I think Clive is onto another winner with that! I was actually thinking about asking him to put a disc mount on my 660... wonder if its possible without that massive bar. Video should be good!! :sleeping: Jonny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Pearson Posted August 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 also known as a bar :- (Y) ← lol, yeah but something long winded and hardly even english always sounds better. :- Just been out for a about five seconds in the street and the disc works as well as any standard maggie, except its silent, and the only you need to do to make it work is pour water over the rotor. Will go out for a proper ride and get back to you on it. Glad you all liked it. :sleeping: Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Pearson Posted August 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 (edited) (Y) Nuff sed! Naa, thats bloody lush, nice colour too! I think Clive is onto another winner with that! I was actually thinking about asking him to put a disc mount on my 660... wonder if its possible without that massive bar. Video should be good!! :sleeping: Jonny. ← There are only two options with discs and leesons. One is to have a Hope C2 which has three mounting points and can go between the chain and seatstays (what Kris used to run), or theres what I've got. I had a standard ISO disc mount on my old frame, but the avid 165 I was running just ripped it in half. The bar dissipates stress to other areas of the frame (kind of like the old megamo Pro's), and when riding you seriously don't even notice its there. Rich Edited August 16, 2005 by karsonlevoret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_Porter Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 didnt you break your last rear avid rich? snapped the mounts or summat? should have got a original colour aswell then you would have had a swell bicycle right there. going to be interesting to see how long it actually lasts... maybe it is one of these hit or mis ideas... :sleeping: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 going to be interesting to see how long it actually lasts... maybe it is one of these hit or mis ideas... :sleeping: ← Agreed... But nice machine Rich (Y) I want a rear disc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Pearson Posted August 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 I'd like to thank you for that vote of confidence there James :sleeping: .... (Y) :- Yeah the last one was just a normal disc mount though so it wasn't really expected to last this long. DH companies like Orange and Santa Cruz have been using something similar to this for a while and it seems to work, so we'll just have to see. Get your ginger ass to bristol tomorrow and you can have a ride... :- Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Looks wank :sleeping: but each to their own* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Get a pair of d321s on there and your laughing (Y) looks sex anyway, just that would finish it off in my eyes :sleeping: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Bleech Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 I'd like to thank you for that vote of confidence there James :sleeping: .... :- :- Yeah the last one was just a normal disc mount though so it wasn't really expected to last this long. DH companies like Orange and Santa Cruz have been using something similar to this for a while and it seems to work, so we'll just have to see. Get your ginger ass to bristol tomorrow and you can have a ride... :o Rich ← true but the stresses on a DH and a Trials bike are totally different (Y) looks nice though dude - keep us updated on how it holds up Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 oh my god! i think i want one! except in mod version :sleeping: also, i know its very off topic, does anyone know anything about the new rear disk pads that monty are bringing out? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_Porter Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 (edited) *my mistake* i cant make tomorrow rich :sleeping: going down plymouth way to see my grandparents. Edited August 16, 2005 by James_Porter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 DH companies like Orange and Santa Cruz have been using something similar to this for a while and it seems to work ← I believe that's so the disk brake forces don't affect the suspension though, not as a bracing bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukeee Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Nice bike , from a design point of view..... But i can't really say i want a rear disc that much. I mean i like Rim brakes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Pearson Posted August 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 (edited) Get a pair of d321s on there and your laughing :- looks sex anyway, just that would finish it off in my eyes :sleeping: ← An XC 717 (black) and a Rhyno lyte are in the post. (Y) I know the DH bike physics are differnt and the bar (as it seems to be now becoming known) is used for different purposes on DH bikes, but I guess we'll see. Thanks for comments :- Rich Edited August 16, 2005 by karsonlevoret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 I believe that's so the disk brake forces don't affect the suspension though, not as a bracing bar. ← otherwise known as brake jack :sleeping: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
br3n Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 just looks like a leeson with a torsion arm... ultra oldskool... personally wouldnt trust a rear disk, not enough bite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 just looks like a leeson with a torsion arm... ultra oldskool... personally wouldnt trust a rear disk, not enough bite. ← Some disks have so much bite its unbelieveable. my old avid had so much bite, and also there was a kid who went around on his bike, he had an enduro 4 185mm on a 26" wheel, it was the best brake i had eer tried, it just locked lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnobs Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 It looks lovely, ive always wanted a rear disc. My front avid has amazing lock on a 185 louise rotor. On the back i would say it had to be better than any magura. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Bleech Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 just looks like a leeson with a torsion arm... ultra oldskool... personally wouldnt trust a rear disk, not enough bite. ← yeah i was thinking that - like the old hope torsion arms that ashton/hawyes had for a while - old skool :sleeping: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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