Whiteboy Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 ok well hopefully i shall be getting a echo pure now i was wondering if some people could help me on some questions: #1. at the momment i have tensile on my woodstock, there on a 118x68mm fsa bb. is this bottom bracket going to have enough clearence with my cranks? #2. headsets, the frame iam buying ive been told that it has a very slightly flared head tube, now i have heard that a fsa pig cups are 2mm wider than most others, is this true? is there any other decent headsets that are sligtly wider than normall? ive been looking at a few which say best out of these: FSA orbit uf (17.99), WTB Momentum Cartridge Bearing(16.99). #3. what bb rise does the frame have with 400mm forks? #4 the new kot forks, are they the same as echo pures? anyone used them what they like? thanks tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 #2. headsets, the frame iam buying ive been told that it has a very slightly flared head tube, now i have heard that a fsa pig cups are 2mm wider than most others, is this true? is there any other decent headsets that are sligtly wider than normall? ive been looking at a few which say best out of these: FSA orbit uf (17.99), WTB Momentum Cartridge Bearing(16.99). ← No no no no no. If someone selling a frame says it's "slightly flared", what they actually mean is that it's completely f**ked. And I don't think you really don't want that. Just leave it well alone, to be honest. And no, it isn't gonna be wider than any other headsets, certainly not by 2mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteboy Posted August 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 No no no no no. If someone selling a frame says it's "slightly flared", what they actually mean is that it's completely f**ked. And I don't think you really don't want that. Just leave it well alone, to be honest. And no, it isn't gonna be wider than any other headsets, certainly not by 2mm. ← i trust this guy and for the price im getting it for not really to bothered. i just do they old coke can trick :shifty:" :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishayton Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 (edited) the cranks should fit, i had same size bb on my koxx levelboss with tensiles and they fitted, same chainstay yokes s should be around the same size it ll be bout 10 mm rise i should think Edited August 15, 2005 by chrishayton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Motivator Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 +10 bb :shifty: Could get a king steelset if youve got a few bucks spare as they are much longer than any headset out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 is it Iolos? if so I had the frame before him and I flaired the cups, I didnt notice till I took the forks out and the headset came out with them :shifty:" all in all, it didnt make any difference apart from being easier to put together :lol: it also has a level bb hight if it isnt his, then dont read the above. I happily used a 118mm bb in my pure, no clearence issues at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eMAyaRKay Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 I neede the longer bb when i got my pure (123mm i think or the nearest to that) i'm running tensiles too. the 118mm was too short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich4130 Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 Pure headtubes are well strong, really suprised its flared, I spent aggges putting a pig into the most abused pure in the world it was so tight. There like ribbed on the inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteboy Posted August 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 anyone have any idea on the forks? do they bend like the pures? what length are the pures and what length the kots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigman Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Get control forks Tom, they are so much nicer than either, lol, yet still realy light, mine come out to around 780g with vee mounts still on, and a cut down steerer, plus the controls have the beasty disc mount, unlike the older pures, or the new KOT forks, plus, why any one want forks longer than 400mm is beyond me :sleeping: Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIX Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 I love long forks. They feel so nice :sleeping: My control rode the best with my ashton forks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_Porter Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 Pure headtubes are well strong, really suprised its flared, I spent aggges putting a pig into the most abused pure in the world it was so tight. There like ribbed on the inside. ← good mechanic thats why rich... :sleeping: pures are beasts, i loved mine and i beat it to the ground and it wouldnt break. just get some urbans or summat, propper good forks them and go like butter to bread with the frame... (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteboy Posted August 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 are saracen mad forks same as pures :- they look real simalar, any idea on how high they are? and how high are pures? are they 215mm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urpedigreechumdog Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 (edited) The new kot forks look just like tuf guys but with reverse 4 bolt mounts imo = go for it :- Edit i mean toxsin forks, not kot :- IGNORE ME! Edited August 16, 2005 by Urpedigreechumdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteboy Posted August 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 anyone help me out on the frorks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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