TomR Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 None of this new fangled shit, some plain old (preferably black or silver) maguras, either a set or just a rear one. Second hands an obvious one, so dont suggest that. Cheers, Tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Clark Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 As in 2004 or proper old skool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomR Posted August 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 I dont even know what year they finished, havent been riding for like, 3 years. but yeah, them ones. Like the hideous bright yellow things everyone had back in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicH_87 Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 cycle sense - they appear to have some left in black and silver. Not 100% if the picture is correct or wether they just didn't bother updating it. That shop is owned by my mates (calops) uncle so pretty trustworthy. (Y) or Bikedock ebay style - i know bikedock are pretty crappy but just another option. other than that, it looks like everywhere has completely discontinues selling them, although i would of thought there would be a few old stock left. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomR Posted August 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Ouch! £120 - they were cheaper than that 3 or 4 years ago! I think ill be going second hand! (Y) Cheers mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Try ringing the shops maybe i know crc were doing em for £80 a pair a few weeks back. The new ones are shit why did they have to downgrade em (Y). And not just for trials there a bad design full stop imo :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmowerman Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Merlin I had a feeling they would have them (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Or try eBay, there are always people selling full sets in mint condition, and they tend to go for £60-70. As it happens I prefer my 05 Maguras to the older ones. I think they must have a smaller lever piston or something, as I have to set the pads up closer to the rim, but I find them more comfortable. With my old ones the TPA's always used to screw up, the levers creaked at the pivot or just ripped clean of. Whatever, I'd say your best bet is eBay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 There's a set of the "special olympic edition" HS33s on eBay in the Supercycles shop for £99. Free watch too :) Go on then, have the link (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 the new ones a re a bad design in your opinion caleb but to many many other people they are better???some other people dont like them the fact of the matter is just live with it the 2005 maguras are here and they are better why would they make something that is WORSE???? also on topic i have levers in stock that i can build into brakes for you if need??? also have got a set of the Olympia edition maguras in stock which are the 04 and previous master cylinder with gold lever blades. Waynio................... pm me if you want more details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 why would they make something that is WORSE???? ← I think he meant worse for trials. Magura have never seemed to recognise trials riders - I never saw them feature trials riders on their promotional material. But that isn't a complaint as if you set brakes up properly then that's usually how they work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 (edited) snappel i would still disagree with you.(edit not in a bad way just from an agreement point of view i dont want to cause an arguement) magura disc brakes are for XC/Freeride/DH etc etc. why do they still make a hs33 rim brake????they dont need to everything nower days is disc or V. you look at the majority of people who use magura and magura know this too that 90% of sales of maguras are to trials riders!!!! personally i think they re-did the lever to make it feel like disc levers too and similar shape so that they didnt look odd or out of shape when using a disc on one brake and a hs33 on the other. Waynio...................... if someone can give me the exact figures of the percentage of sales of maguras id be suprised but the uk importer of magura knows that the majority of sales are to trials people. Edited August 5, 2005 by Waynio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave85 Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 why would they make something that is WORSE???? ← Because they can, they hold the master patents, they have a monopoly, and we keep giving them our money :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Maguras are THE brake for trials. For anything else, they are just a poor man's disc brake. And yeah, I don't doubt that Magura sells a high percentage of HS33s to trials riders. I don't think they care enough about us, really. But meh, we'll still keep using the brakes. As for making them worse, I don't think think they would do that intentionally. Either it's a mistake on the their part, or the 2005 levers are better for other people. It's not like they could save much money with changing the lever design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janson Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 as long as you grind away a bit of the lever blade on the 2005 ones, so that you get more lever travel, they're OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 i agree tomm. but most people get on with the new levers and they ARE better. its just people on here have used them for like a day or two cant get used to them so slate the arse off them. when they are better. if you think not then its like koxx designing the new levelboss for it to be worse than the old 1!!!!and they just wouldnt do it. Jaguar to make the x-type a crap car that breaks down all the time when they dont???? it works in everyway. im pretty sure that you will have had something and it be faulty got a new one or the new model and it be better???? Waynio.................. its called technology and it keeps getting better and better just because people are stuk back in 2004 with magura levers snap out of it try a 2005 lever and leave it on your bike for longer than a week and you will see the benefits trust me!im a doctor :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 (edited) But if you think about it id say most of the trials riders are on this forum and we have 3000< users right? so say theres about 6k trialsers in the world (just a guess) and say everyother person in the world owns a bike? trials is a very very small sport compared to other aspects of biking right and even though most go for disc i still reckon the small percentage of the bigger biking sports use more maguras than or community. If this was not so wouldnt magura acknowledge our sales and design a magura to suit our needs even better? ive seen shit loads of xc'ers with racelines lol and std maguras, and even jumps bikers. i mean theres 2755 users on ukdirt, 6918 on southern downhill and 35375 on mbuk forum !! i realise some of these users will be the same people but not many. say 10% of the mbukers used maguras which im sure more than that do as discs weaken frames a lot as theres no boosters designed for em, that would be at least 3500 people and thats more than the entire trialsers on our forum. maybe its close but i think they posbbly believe therell have a lot of insuarance claims from trials riders if the brake fails and magura have specified it for trials use? even some carreras came with maguras std in the day, they were really good bikes aswell :P . My pov over anway :P edit 1 : also all of the new maguras ive seen have broken tpa's which are pretty much un repairable unlike the old mags where you could improve the brakes tpa, good advice on the grinding bit janson i may have to try it on my spare :P" Edited August 5, 2005 by Caleb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 snappel i would still disagree with you.(edit not in a bad way just from an agreement point of view i dont want to cause an arguement) ← You don't have to justify your disagreement like that - I didn't have you marked down as a trouble maker or anything!!! As far as sales figures go, you'd have a better idea than me being that you work in the industry, but I'm still not sure. Perhaps Magura have felt the pressure to revamp the HS33 because disk brakes are cheaper and more readily available. I have seen a fair few XC riders with Maguras, although I think I can safely say the days of DH riders using them are over (HB & Tomac!!!). I never had much trouble with TPA's on the old brakes. I think people just abused them or tried to do them up too hard. My 05's didn't even take getting used to - they were fine straight out of the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrat Posted August 6, 2005 Report Share Posted August 6, 2005 Any chance you are talking about the "Raceline D" model? God that takes me back! (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilly Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 The new HS33's are certainly different to the older ones, but having used both types now, i don't think they're better or worse, just different. A day or two getting used to them and your fine (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny B Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 In reply to the original question of where you can get the old style levers from try super cycles i know that they have got quite a few, and i have found that the new type there is a machining fault that allows them to break off just from the pressure of pulling them i have done five of them now and only ever broken 1 of the old type. p.s. first post after being validated, mint.... :P (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIX Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 People do make designs worse rather than better all the time, I just cant think of any examples. (Y) Of course they dont do it on purpose, but it does happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Result !!! :( Maguras without mounts Maguras with 4 bolt mounts for an extra tenner ! Hope this helped , thank me later :)" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 the new ones a re a bad design in your opinion caleb but to many many other people they are better???some other people dont like them the fact of the matter is just live with it the 2005 maguras are here and they are better Waynio................... pm me if you want more details. ← When looking at them the lever moves in the exact same orientation as the old skool maguras, its just the body thats all screwed about with . But having super short fingers the lever still feels gay.. like its the curve or something. Im sure its something to do with lil finger guys like me as to why they suck so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Result !!! :) Maguras without mounts Maguras with 4 bolt mounts for an extra tenner ! ← I think the first ones will come with evo mounts. Just not 4 bolt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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