Davetrials Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 Ive got my backing glue and rubber, how the hell do i get it firmly in to the backing, hack away at it with a knife till its right? Thanx. :"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai the Socket Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 Take an old pad out, make the new pad the same. Usually some kind of 'jig' helps if you want to make them home made. But Injection moulding is the best way. It makes 100% pads the best quality. (Y) :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 (edited) I used to only injection mould my plastic backings, but now i am starting to injection mould the rubber pad, will post some pics when are totally finished. Here's what i do: Heat rubber granules in kiln for 4 hours @ 90 degrees, to release mositure which the rubber absorbs, which can effect mould quality as when heated it starts to bubble as mositre evaoprates. Switch on injection moulder, let it warm up for 15 mins. Then purge the moulder to remove any old rubber from moulder and flush it though with new dry plastic. Fill hopper with dry rubber. Insert rubber pad mould into moulder, tighten. And press go. Every 30 seconds roughly. The mould will be released, extract pad from mould using extraction pins to push it out of mould, close mould up and repeat the process over and over again. :P Once pad has been moulded, let it cure and reabosorb moisture. Then put backing into glueing jig, fill with glue, put pad on top and clamp down. Then leave to dry, and again repeat the process thousands of times. The whole process gets very boring after a while, espeicailly when you have done it a couple of thousand times. (Y) I hope some people will find this interesting. :) Edited July 15, 2005 by wally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanRs Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 (edited) I used to only injection mould my plastic backings, but now i am starting to injection mould the rubber pad, will post some pics when are totally finished. Here's what i do: Heat rubber granules in kiln for 4 hours @ 90 degrees, to release mositure which the rubber absorbs, which can effect mould quality as when heated it starts to bubble as mositre evaoprates. Switch on injection moulder, let it warm up for 15 mins. Then purge the moulder to remove any old rubber from moulder and flush it though with new dry plastic. Fill hopper with dry rubber. Insert rubber pad mould into moulder, tighten. And press go. Every 30 seconds roughly. The mould will be released, extract pad from mould using extraction pins to push it out of mould, close mould up and repeat the process over and over again. (Y) Once pad has been moulded, let it cure and reabosorb moisture. Then put backing into glueing jig, fill with glue, put pad on top and clamp down. Then leave to dry, and again repeat the process thousands of times. The whole process gets very boring after a while, espeicailly when you have done it a couple of thousand times. :) I hope some people will find this interesting. :P ← cant you just use Pritstick? (Y) Edited July 15, 2005 by RyanRs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotchDave Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 (edited) No you can't, its official industry derscription is "piss weak". EDT Grammer (Y) Edited July 15, 2005 by div Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted July 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 Any easier ways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burton Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 No more nails and a few staples? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted July 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 Blu tac? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burton Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 Blu tac? ← Hmmm....nah (Y) Your best bet is to cut out the pad material in shape of the Magura or PowerPad backing, for a better, more secure fit. Then let losse with No More Nails or the equivilant. If your unsure about it staying in place, then put a few stples in the side of it, well close to the backing :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 I filled the backing with loctite suoper glue and left it in the vice overnight Worked fine but looks like a mis shaped carrot :angry:" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 I used to only injection mould my plastic backings, but now i am starting to injection mould the rubber pad, will post some pics when are totally finished. Here's what i do: Heat rubber granules in kiln for 4 hours @ 90 degrees, to release mositure which the rubber absorbs, which can effect mould quality as when heated it starts to bubble as mositre evaoprates. Switch on injection moulder, let it warm up for 15 mins. Then purge the moulder to remove any old rubber from moulder and flush it though with new dry plastic. Fill hopper with dry rubber. Insert rubber pad mould into moulder, tighten. And press go. Every 30 seconds roughly. The mould will be released, extract pad from mould using extraction pins to push it out of mould, close mould up and repeat the process over and over again. :o Once pad has been moulded, let it cure and reabosorb moisture. Then put backing into glueing jig, fill with glue, put pad on top and clamp down. Then leave to dry, and again repeat the process thousands of times. The whole process gets very boring after a while, espeicailly when you have done it a couple of thousand times. :angry: I hope some people will find this interesting. (Y) ← Because i'm sure he has an injention mould sitting around in the garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burton Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 Because i'm sure he has an injention mould sitting around in the garage. ← As if you dont (Y) :angry: And says ''Mr. RimJam pads fall out of the backings'' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 (edited) superglue anyone? oops.. Two flat surfaces then use superglue. Edited July 15, 2005 by Spacemunkee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Motivator Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 (edited) Use a hacksaw and superglue; Mine worked a treat. Edited July 15, 2005 by Sam@SouthTrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanRs Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 i would say , fill the inside of the backing with arodhite adhesive, and then get 2 small flat top/counter sunk screws and screw them through the back of the backing and into the pad. obviously dont overtighten the screws cos it will start riping the pad material away (like x-threadding stylee). Then leave in a vice overnite. My mate used this technique to fix 2 backings to one pad, basically to give the pad more reach, as he had a Koxx frame and a mavic rim and needed a Wide rim (but couldnt be botherd to get one) . the pad idea worked perfecto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducko Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 i think rim jam use some sort of pritt stick but a really cheap version that has even less stick :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 superglue anyone? oops.. Two flat surfaces then use superglue. ← Yep. Always make sure there's some old pad left in the backing, because the new pad needs to stick to something. And have the 2 surfaces as flat as possible. Common sense. Rossi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todge Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 i think rim jam use some sort of pritt stick but a really cheap version that has even less stick :P ← They do :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 2 Part Epoxy should do the job (Y) I wouldnt trust anything like superglue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 (edited) me and my mate used this bonding glue where you had 2 little seringes full of diffrent stuff, then you had to mix them together and oh my god they stuck!! intill i done a stoppie and face planted into my girlfriend (Y)" (Y)" Cause the pads just shot apart! Danny, iv just watched you "avitar" and its soooo funny!!! lol Edited July 17, 2005 by terror-error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 dave the answer is so simple you just have to use your brain. OR you could just use a wad of jizz!!!!! Waynio........................ DING dong......................... (Y) T O O L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted July 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 (edited) God i f**king hate him. bloody yorkshire nut!! Pads done wit glue and performing like beast's Edited July 17, 2005 by Davetrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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