Trials Punk Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 Right I'm starting my new job on monday. Yes halfords. So I'll be working full time and have decided to get a moto trialser. I'm launching into this blind. One thing I'm sure about is I don't waant 4 stroke, its heavyer and won't make that awsome noise. Sure its more reliable but its just something about 4 stroke i don't like. I'd like to buy brand new because well it will be MY BIKE if you know what I mean. I'm not light i'm 14 stone so I think a 250 would do. I'm not weak either. Theres no way i'd be wearing lycra lol. So really I need to know what bike, gasgas, montesa, sherco ect. I'd like to bike to be a light one but not under powered for my weight. I can pay up to say £3500-£4000max Maybe this should have gone into chit chat but I thought it came under TRIALS CHAT. Meh. We'll see. So people who have or had moto trialsers give me some advice here on what to get and what not too, point out some reviews on the net ect. Cheers, Kyle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colly Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 (edited) right we've had 2 gas gas's a beta, a sherco and just got a montessa to night, dont touch the new gas gas pro's as they fall to bits they usually ok aslong as they maintained properley, but daft stuff goes on them, montessa dont sell a new 2 stroke, as the 4rt replaced this, i would say stay away from a scorpa as they are dated, but the 2nd hand montessa 2 stroke ones will serve you well from hrc engine, but prepared to paid over the odds for them second hand as they very sought after becasue no one wants to sells them as they are that good,also betas are good bikes if you can live with kick start on the left hand side and leaky carbs,but very reliable apart from cdi units in wet condtions a lot die up here in trials, i ride a 200 sherco soon to be upgrading to a 250 or 290 sherco or 250 montessa, personnaly i love the shercos weight nothing, well built, look good, but only the rear shocker lets them down but you will be ok as youre just starting, but shercos i would say should be on top of your list, 250 shercos are quciker from the bottom end but once a 290 is screaming it will produce immense power, the only other thing about shercos is the tank, which was weak on old models but has been made thicker now, and the fact they only 5 speed which limits to 3 gears in sections but 3rd gear will haul you up any hill or step you will find. personally if youre after a new one wait till the 06's are out in august, as 05's will be cheaper then, and a lot of improvements will be made on 06's. best thing to do if its your first bike is to buy second hand one first to make sure you like it for 1500 ish. Edited June 29, 2005 by colly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials Punk Posted June 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 Cheers mate. That was really helpfull (Y) I think I'll be looking at the sherco a bit more then, havn't really looked at them much as the gasgas are red and shiny lol. I'll buy second hand first I think its silly going in to brand new straight off. Cheers for the advice. Any more advice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Tupman Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 No offense but a Sherco's are the worst bike out off all of those and would be my last choice (Y) Montesa get a 1999 onwards as before that they are raging beasts that are uncontrolable Scorpa wicked bikes that are built very well at a high standard veery much like the Montesas, I have no faults with these bike what so ever Beta again great bikes, as said above have trouble with ignition, try and get one thats been redone as they never go wrong after that GasGas don't get a Pro unless it's late O4 onwards because they have massive gearbox problems but thats only with the Pro's the TXT's are great solid bikes Sherco to be honist there rubish unless there brand new! engins pack up quickly suspension is pretty crap and genral build quality is pants :- If I was you i'd go for on of the first 3 makes :D i'd say better if I was made to choose but then i'm now on my 5th so i'm biased :D but thats for a reason A 250 would be perfect for yourself If you go and buy a Trials and Motorcross news (newspaper) there is always plent for sale in there from both private sales and dealers If you need any more info just ask matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials Punk Posted June 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 (edited) I'll have a look at the montesa then. Lol. Definatly second hand. Cheers. PS What are your thoughts on Fantics? I like the look of them but have no idea how they are mechaniccly. Edited June 30, 2005 by Trials Punk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colly Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 i was talking to john crinson about the sherco 2 strokes, and he had a gas gas pro at the 6 day the year before and with 80 miles a day for 6 days the sherco never budged, a lot of people have different oppions on them, but i think they are solid bikes from my experiecne, won loads of 6 days and the scott trial last year, but yeh montessa's you wont go far wrong with them, fantics are too old and theres very little parts for them, stay well clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that NBR dude Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 I couldn't fault my Sherco, it was an awesome machine. Mine was a 2002 or a 2003 model I think, cant really remember. Have ridden a Montessa, and have to say, I fell in love with it. It was extremely good, and a lot better than my Sherco, but just felt that little bit heavier to ride than the Sherco. May have just been me but meh. As everyone has said, dont get a Gasgas Pro, they are really are appauling. I would go for either a Montessa or a Sherco as my 2 main choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colly Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 (edited) I couldn't fault my Sherco, it was an awesome machine. Mine was a 2002 or a 2003 model I think, cant really remember. Have ridden a Montessa, and have to say, I fell in love with it. It was extremely good, and a lot better than my Sherco, but just felt that little bit heavier to ride than the Sherco. May have just been me but meh. As everyone has said, dont get a Gasgas Pro, they are really are appauling. I would go for either a Montessa or a Sherco as my 2 main choices. ← yeh montessa's are a bit heavier, shercos just feel like a moutain bike to ride imo, and are very skinny and thin, where as montessa's are a bit wider and heavier, but better built. Edited June 30, 2005 by colly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 Hey, right erm, why are u so persistant to buying a new bike, i belive some one said spend about half that get a bike which will do the same job and if ur convinced u like it buy a new one, theres no downer, just hunt for one which has had a little kiddie owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colly Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 (edited) just hunt for one which has had a little kiddie owner. i think over 40's riders are the better ones but nothing wrong buying of a little kid JUST LOOK OUT FOR ONES BEEN USED ON EXPERT COURSE, AND ONES SAYING SCHOOL BOY USE ONLY. AS THEY could highly likly of been hamered. , now a days little kids just flog them and put it all on the clutch like me... :(" bet yeh i bought mine of a little girl who only rode the ty80 course and it was a clean bike, but very poorly maintained before i bought it it had close to 600 bar, spent on it. mines for sale at present for 1550 here is a piccy Edited July 1, 2005 by colly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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