I Pwns J00 N00bs

[andyroo]

Kerching that's what someone else said not me. f**king hell.

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Am glad you're starting to agree. As for the rest, well when it has your name on the top of the quote, its kind of hard to start saying that someone else wrote it...

[MrMonkey]

Am glad you're starting to agree. As for the rest, well when it has your name on the top of the quote, its kind of hard to start saying that someone else wrote it...

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Please read the quote, it says YOU say, not I say, is it really that hard to understand I just shortened what Robbo said.

[andyroo]

Please read the quote, it says YOU say, not I say, is it really that hard to understand I just shortened what Robbo said.

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And why would you explain it for him unless you believe it to be true?

Are you his secretary?

[MrMonkey]

And why would you explain it for him unless you believe it to be true?

Are you his secretary?

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Because I was going through with him what happened. Because he didn't seem to understand my point similar to you, might have to do it for you soon. Am I your secretary, no, you're just stoooopid.

[andyroo]

Because I was going through with him what happened. Because he didn't seem to understand my point similar to you, might have to do it for you soon. Am I your secretary, no, you're just stoooopid.

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So you were explaining to him that if a trials rider and the gunman swapped over, the trials rider would have a harder time than the gunman getting used to each others hobby?

And your last sentance says to me that you didn't read my last post properly!

[MrMonkey]

So you were explaining to him that if a trials rider and the gunman swapped over, the trials rider would have a harder time than the gunman getting used to each others hobby?

And your last sentance says to me that you didn't read my last post properly!

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NO I WAS EXPLAINING TO HIM WHAT HE HAD SAID, IS IT THAT f**kING HARD. Jesus f**king christ. He said what he thought I said something he got lost or something I went through what had been said step by step but I just shortened each thing down for f**king hells sake.

And how come you completely ignored chrishayton's post proving your gun knowledge similar to a computer after a grenade went off inside it. USELESS.

Edited June 29, 2005 by MrMonkey

[Mark W]

NO I WAS EXPLAINING TO HIM WHAT HE HAD SAID, IS IT THAT f**kING HARD. Jesus f**king christ. He said what he thought I said something he got lost or something I went through what had been said step by step but I just shortened each thing down for f**king hells sake.

And how come you completely ignored chrishayton's post proving your gun knowledge similar to a computer after a grenade went off inside it. USELESS.

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Jeez, talk about talking crap...

[MrMonkey]

Jeez, talk about talking crap...

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Maybe if you read the rest of the thread you'd see that's what happened though. Thanks captain.

[Mark W]

Fortunately, I had read the rest of the thread.

The rest of the thread still didn't explain why your post which I commented on made f**k all sense.

[MrMonkey]

I bet that guy would be worse on a bike, compared to any of us with a gun. Not as much skill used i dont think.

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This links to number 1.

First problem, you couldn't hit a moving target for shit, once you are 15ft away from an untrainer gunman you have a 50% chance of not even being shot while running away.

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This links with number 2.

How do you know i couldn't hit a moving target? Maybe some of us are pretty handy with a gun  :blink:

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Number 3 baby.

Ooooooh I see, so you thought him having a ground start on a bike was fair to someone having a 2nd/3rd/4th rung up the ladder start. I read into people's posts I don't just read them. That's how come I thought you would of liked the challenge for the gun man to be fair, not for one person to have an advantage.

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4 foshizzy.

I suppose i should comeback with some clever answer but.... wtf  :'(

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That don't go with anything I just quoted it.

Ok, let's go through this in baby steps.

1. You say that he won't be as good on a bike as any of us with a gun.

2. I say it's harder to use a gun than you think.

3. You claim to have experience with a gun.

4. That old man probably doesn't know what trials is.

5. Giving you an advantage to start with which he doesn't have so your comparison cannot work.

IS IT THAT HARD.

That's like racing a turd against a cheetah over 50m.

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Now, if we read my most recent post, you can see how it does make sense. It may not make sense to everyone else, but my lack of care seems to make it ok for it to make sense to me and no-one else.

As most intelligent folk can probably see, I was explaining the conversation me and Robbo had, I was not expressing my views. I was simply repeating what had been said but shortening it because I'm a lazy twat.

[andyroo]

you heard of a thing called recoil mate?

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Surprisingly enough, I have. Standard 9mm rounds do not provide much recoil, in fact the power of them is so little that at 50 metres away, the bullet wouldnt penetrate a normal leather jacket.

I have fired a lot more powerful weapons than that using 5.56mm rounds, and even they don't give much recoil.

What you are thinking about are large calibre weapons, such as a shotgun, or any of the old american high powered rifles using 7.76mm.

If you'd read the thread you would have taken note that I have been awarded for marksmanship.

And Mr. Monkey, if you hate people who put someone down because they think their skill is better because the other person cant do it, then why are you saying that the gun guys skill is better because you think none of us can do it? Surely thats hypocrisy?

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Eermmm... :blink:

Actually, it is hard to understand. Why would you feel the need to explain to someone what they themselves had said? I find that a bit confusing...

[Mark W]

I knew you were quoting him, but your posts seemed to make less and less sense.

Almost in the same way the guy timing the shooter seemed to be using a calculator :blink:\

[MrMonkey]

Eermmm...  :blink:

Actually, it is hard to understand. Why would you feel the need to explain to someone what they themselves had said? I find that a bit confusing...

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Because he kept using this face :'( (Y) :- :P Does that person look confused to you? When someone is confused about something you explain it to them, maybe you just f**king stomp on their head and say "Get offa ma dirt farm son" But I don't. I try to help.

[andyroo]

I bet that guy would be worse on a bike, compared to any of us with a gun. Not as much skill used i dont think.

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Ok, let's go through this in baby steps.

1. You say that he won't be as good on a bike as any of us with a gun.

2. I say it's harder to use a gun than you think.

3. You claim to have experience with a gun.

4. That old man probably doesn't know what trials is.

5. Giving you an advantage to start with which he doesn't have so your comparison cannot work.

IS IT THAT HARD.

That's like racing a turd against a cheetah over 50m.

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So Robbo says that he thinks it is easier to fire a gun than it is to do trials, so you tell him no, it is easier to ride trials than it is to fire a gun.

That doesnt quite add up to what you are trying to tell us now...

[MrMonkey]

So Robbo says that he thinks it is easier to fire a gun than it is to do trials, so you tell him no, it is easier to ride trials than it is to fire a gun.

That doesnt quite add up to what you are trying to tell us now...

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No, I said "It's harder to use a gun than you think", in what way does that mean a gun is harder to use than riding trials. Uh oh someone's being assuming things, assumptions lead to argument losses.

[Mark W]

You technically assumed on number 4.

Technical losses: the best kind.

Anyway, one thing I have learned from this: Something to add to the "Impossible Things To Do List" as well as "Slam a revolving door", we have "Try and trip up that ninja guy so he falls over."

[chrishayton]

Eermmm...  :blink:

Actually, it is hard to understand. Why would you feel the need to explain to someone what they themselves had said? I find that a bit confusing...

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ok well read the post after that 1 you just quoted then

[MrMonkey]

You technically assumed on number 4.

Technical losses:  the best kind.

Anyway, one thing I have learned from this:  Something to add to the "Impossible Things To Do List" as well as "Slam a revolving door", we have "Try and trip up that ninja guy so he falls over."

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How can I make an assumption if I say PROBABLY. That's not an assumption it's a guess, I didn't say he didn't know anything about trials. Oooooo. Monkey not for the lose FOR the WEEEEEN.

[andyroo]

Ok, let's go through this in baby steps.

1. You say that he won't be as good on a bike as any of us with a gun.

2. I say it's harder to use a gun than you think.

3. You claim to have experience with a gun.

4. That old man probably doesn't know what trials is.

5. Giving you an advantage to start with which he doesn't have so your comparison cannot work.

IS IT THAT HARD.

That's like racing a turd against a cheetah over 50m.

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No, I said "It's harder to use a gun than you think", in what way does that mean a gun is harder to use than riding trials. Uh oh someone's being assuming things, assumptions lead to argument losses.

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But its not an assumption, its right there in your quote. You said yourself (point 1 in your quote) that Robbo reckons that shooting a gun is easier than riding trials, which leads to you saying (point 2) that shooting a gun is harder than people are lead to think.

Would you just be saying that because shooting a gun is nearly as hard as riding trials?

Or because you think shooting a gun is harder than riding trials?

You tell me

[MrMonkey]

But its not an assumption, its right there in your quote. You said yourself (point 1 in your quote) that Robbo reckons that shooting a gun is easier than riding trials, which leads to you saying (point 2) that shooting a gun is harder than people are lead to think.

Would you just be saying that because shooting a gun is nearly as hard as riding trials?

Or because you think shooting a gun is harder than riding trials?

You tell me

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I always will argue a counter point, some people still haven't realised this yet, but I don't like boring topics, I like to spice them up with swearing, pornography and arguments. Yet when I do this everything I say is automatically my beliefs, so I get called Nazi to Jesus. But some people won't understand that I don't wanna see 100 of the same post saying "Yeah I agree". So I dunno which is harder, I just know that saying one thing is harder than the other without being able to do either thing to perfection is stupid.

[Mark W]

The thing is you do this stuff to piss people off.

You are going to get suspended/banned for doing it (notice the way that someone warned you twice* for one thing, just to try and get the point across?).

I know you'll probably say you don't care or something, but basically, seeing as you spend a load of time on here talking to people, you will, pretty much...

Anyway, it's stopped raining so I'm off for a ride.

*Not me, before anyone says :blink:

EDIT: And before you get all uppity, remember there is a fine line between playing devil's advocate and just being a dickhead.

[Haz]

Monkey not for the lose FOR the WEEEEEN.

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Please Monkey, be quiet. :blink:

Haz

[andyroo]

no mate a 9mm suffers from over penetration. a 9mm would easily penetrate a leather jacket at 50 metres. so don't be so stupid. im guessing the 5.56 rounds you talk about have been used in a rifle. a rifle can be gripped alot better than a pistol thus reducing recoil. and no i am not confused with larger caliber weapons. a standard 9mm provides quite a lot of recoil actually although what that guy is using is very unlikely to be a 9mm. its probably a 22 round which yeh does give less recoil than a 9mm but still gives some. please dont talk bullshit in future  :blink:

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Believe me, the shape of a 9mm round being blunt and wide gives it significant loss in speed and power over long range. The tip is designed to send shock waves when entering the body to spread the force outwards and not through, meaning that although the round has difficulty entering the body, when it does, the force is sent outwards not through, leaving a wide tunnel in its wake, tapering from the entrance wound. An extreme example off this is the dumb-dumb round which is a normal 9mm round with a cross etched into the top, allowing the round to explode into shards upon entering the body and splaying out to cause more damage.

On the whole, 9mm rounds, having entered the body will not exit, but will only be buried a few inchs in from the surface, and that is a close range.

What I said about a 9mm round is true; Jonny Knoxville tried a similar thing from 10 metres with a bullet proof vest on.

A 5.56mm firing rifle is harder to grip because of its bulk, its recoil is stronger because of the calibre, and that still doesnt give much kick.

With a pistol, you can hold it with your arms locked, prviding a much better rigidity from the small recoil.

And as you said, I would get more recoil from having a piss than off a .22 round, so that even furthur proves my point that its easier to fire if the handgun has been adapted to fire .22 rounds.

interesting fact: for males, when peeing, the penis actually rifles (i.e: spins) your urine so it comes out in a narrow squirt rather than spiralling off? wow!

[MrMonkey]

The thing is you do this stuff to piss people off. 

You are going to get suspended/banned for doing it (notice the way that someone warned you twice* for one thing, just to try and get the point across?).

I know you'll probably say you don't care or something, but  basically, seeing as you spend a load of time on here talking to people, you will, pretty much...

Anyway, it's stopped raining so I'm off for a ride.

*Not me, before anyone says :blink:

EDIT:  And before you get all uppity, remember there is a fine line between playing devil's advocate and just being a dickhead.

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I don't do it to piss people off, sometimes yes on the odd occassion, but most of the time it's just people misunderstanding me and then going for a dig straight away. I just think that it's unfair for people to do that so I have a go straight back and because my post instigated it, it's obviously my fault. I obvioulsy don't want to get banned, but it isn't gonna stop me speaking my mind. If I get banned for something I say it's a difference in opinion that what I said was bad.

[Mark W]

Just having a drink before riding, so I'll just fire one last reply:

You even said it yourself you do it to piss people off. From the experience of people outside of your own head, all your "counter-arguements" as you call them seem to be to try and piss people off, even if you don't seem to think they are. I'm not saying "Don't speak" or anything like that, but like I said - there's a difference betwene playing devil's advocate and just being a dick. You see to cross the line most times, just because you know you can as you seem to have gotten away with it. However, it's getting well old, which is why people are warning the f**k out of you.