Brisa Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Nope he meant what he said, you just didn't read it properly >_<" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Drewery Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 I would wait for the Hope Trials HUb to be realeased,i cant see it being that long of now as the one they have just done for my freind with 72 pick up points seems to be the best one yet. Think they have got it right on that one anyway lets hope so,will be the hub to have when its released id suspect >_<" Looks the stuff anyway. Wait for the new hope hub....Any questions about it pm trial noir..... Lee >_< ← Thats what i'm doing, my rear hope mono hub just keeps breaking and its not worth the money in the long run. I have a rear trials hub on order, but i have to wait until september for it, i am sure it will be worth it though, they have put a lot of design and testing into this hub, and like no other hub on the market, it is sold to be used for trials, chris kings and hopes are designed for xc or possibly downhill, not the rigours of trials. I was considering a front freewheel setup, but decided not to as they seem to skip a lot and i cant afford new cranks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 god dave you put a friging post up about hope being the dogs knackers and replacing your hub then slate the hell out of them?????? why????? iv had the same hope hub for about 9months and not broken it, pulled it apart 2/3 times to clean it out and lube it up.............. why does everyone have problems???? they god damn dont look after them. ye everyone wait for the trials hub? but when you do the same to that you will winge at that too. if pro's like akrigg hawzee and ashton dont break them????? there are many more pro's that use them. i think people just need to use more initiative with them. dont just swing at something find the pick up before you take the swing at your cranks. Tom go with the mono rear hub, trust me if you use it right it wont break down, if it ever did you just pop it back in the post to hope and they will sort it out, there the best company on the market and produce the best equipment and service going. Waynio........................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 also depends if your old skool or new skool. uci riders tend to want to use FFW as (for some reason i dont know exactly) but its better.............. Street riding and stuff i prefer a more standard set up, i wont change my opinion as iv always been more old skool iv tried uci style cranks and there ok but it just traps the chain to the chainstay too much. my opinion anyway. Waynio...................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Smith Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Anybody wanting a hope pro 2 trials hubs will have to wait a while.......... its going into the final stage of development this week............ providing there is no faults with our new spring and pawl design all should be well.....with a weight of 285 grams for an iso disc rear hub it is very light yet still has the strength........i am sure it will be worth the wait. As far as the pro 2 front hub is concerned there are no problems yet I expect a release date of around september. Any questions about this hub just ask................... >_< regards ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishayton Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Anybody wanting a hope pro 2 trials hubs will have to wait a while.......... its going into the final stage of development this week............ providing there is no faults with our new spring and pawl design all should be well.....with a weight of 285 grams for an iso disc rear hub it is very light yet still has the strength........i am sure it will be worth the wait. As far as the pro 2 front hub is concerned there are no problems yet I expect a release date of around september. Any questions about this hub just ask................... >_< regards ash ← What sort of price will we be looking at for the hub, and also what engagement will it have. right as for the ffw set up. if your saving weight and money use the mono and a fixed front cog. thats the set up i use and it works great, hope mono mite not have loads of engagement points but as wayne said as long as you find the biting point then it doesn't matter. i like my hope hub and its free to get it fixed so tis all good. think im still going to buy a hope trial one though. the low weight and more ep's. are pulling me towards it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionic Balls Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 like no other hub on the market, it is sold to be used for trials, chris kings and hopes are designed for xc or possibly downhill, not the rigours of trials. true...but we are comparing the hope and the ENO >_< the ENO trial is designed for heavy duty "trials" use >_< . It is made of some damn specially treated steel...try filing it (Y)" If you've ever seen Danny Butler ride, you'd know that he has a "fair" amount of power- he has a sponsorshop from CK, but doesn't trust their hub.....He uses the ENO for good reason :- adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 If you've ever seen Danny Butler ride, you'd know that he has a "fair" amount of power- he has a sponsorshop from CK, but doesn't trust their hub.....He uses the ENO for good reason >_< ← I've seen his freewheel fail, sending him facefirst into a rock. Boy, did he get a bollocking for that! I'll stick my King, ta >_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Danny's lockring came loose, leading to that accident. He's not really sponsored by King as far as I'm aware, just got a deal on a couple of headsets. I think using a front freewheel is more down to the 'fashion' in UCI. Either way, I'd go for a rear Hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janson Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 and as we know, fasion RULES... i tighten my ACS everytime i ride, before, during and after the ride. when i feel it's clicking when pedalling, i know it's tightening time. I jam a key in the small hole and just press the lockring a bit and it screws on a wee bit. i really should loctite/weld it but i cant be assed. ffw is cheaper. acs freewheel + deore hub is like 30 quid maximum. and if you've got screw on cranks, you're sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 i tighten my ACS everytime i ride, before, during and after the ride. when i feel it's clicking when pedalling, i know it's tightening time. I jam a key in the small hole and just press the lockring a bit and it screws on a wee bit. Most people aren't as sensible as you though Rob >_< ffw is cheaper. acs freewheel + deore hub is like 30 quid maximum. and if you've got screw on cranks, you're sorted. ← Yeah, it's only (significantly) cheaper IF you have threaded cranks. Certainly a viable option even if you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janson Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 whenever my drivetrain makes stupid noises it ruins my riding. I CANT FOCUS if the bike wont stfu. last summer, my cranks creaked. it was soo f**king disturbing. i cant believe how people actually manage to ride if their bikes feel funny, ie play in parts, creak, noises etc. my freewheel is full of dirt, never lubed or serviced. as long as you don't kick the pedal like crazy, you're fine. it makes fabulous sounds, and never skips. the other day, i could remove the lockring by only turning it 1/4 of a turn. that's how loose it was. freewheel was fine though. >_< i cant believe how people blow their freewheels up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunkey_monkey_boy Posted June 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 well i got some new tyres today so decided instead of fighting with the sunn rim i'd slap the tyres on my spare wheels (the mono's). i've been out riding and although i can notice the difference in pick up between the hope and the acs claw i had its not changed my riding, i just find the bite. so thank you everyone for your input but in the end it was the good old try it and see method that made the descision (sp?). now final question for you all, when i get new cranks a 16T would allow me to use a lower gear on the cassette and get a better chain line but is there any disadvantage to using a 16T instead of an 18T screw on cog??? cheers tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boon racoon Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 why not keep the hope backwheel in either case (i'd keep the rear freewheel if i were you) but if you get a FFW just remove the internal spacer from your hope hub and you can lock it out. saves you buying a new or heavier hub/wheel or welding anything. do up your fangled allen bolts in your leeson quite tight and the hub will be locked out. then all you have to do is a buy a fixed front cog (cheap i assume) and put the spacer back in your hub, and you have a rear freewheel again. good cool ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunkey_monkey_boy Posted June 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 why not keep the hope backwheel in either case (i'd keep the rear freewheel if i were you) but if you get a FFW just remove the internal spacer from your hope hub and you can lock it out. saves you buying a new or heavier hub/wheel or welding anything. do up your fangled allen bolts in your leeson quite tight and the hub will be locked out. then all you have to do is a buy a fixed front cog (cheap i assume) and put the spacer back in your hub, and you have a rear freewheel again. good cool ace ← boon - you are officially a genius!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee_Buchanan Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 What sort of price will we be looking at for the hub, and also what engagement will it have ? 72 pick up points the pro 2 should have...thats how many the one that is being used now has anyway..... Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boon racoon Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 boon - you are officially a genius!!! ← yar i aint as dumb as i look see >_< make sure you leave the pawls and springs in the hub when u lock it out though >_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 LMAO!!!! no1 ever said that boon i consider you a man of the old skool world with lots of inteligence my man! also iv looked into doing what boon has said and it works spot on like he said dont remove the pawls and springs though. i got the idea once at work when a bike came in without the spacer in and it would not for love or money with the Q/R tight freewheel, but when you loosened it it was spot on. a trip inside the hub and you clearly see why it does it, it might ruin the 1 bearing on the inside of the hub drive side, but the bearings are only £5!!!! and if your wanting to go FFW then its a cheaper way of doing it really. Waynio....................... i just dont see the need for putting FFW when you can just use rear and less pick up yet in your head you just have to use more precision. if some people cant do it then fair enough but it only takes a little bit of thought. just like most things in trials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 I would cry if I had to lock out my Hope by a bodge though. It's a bit stupid having a £90 hub and using it like a shitty deore and some weld. But yeah, it's a cheaper way to do it if you already have the Hope. But I still don't understand the fascination with Front freewheel. It's like Adam said I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janson Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 the chain spins even if you don't pedal. :blink: it's hypnotising and soothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunkey_monkey_boy Posted June 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 i just dont see the need for putting FFW when you can just use rear and less pick up yet in your head you just have to use more precision. if some people cant do it then fair enough but it only takes a little bit of thought. just like most things in trials. ← i'm sticking with rear hub freewheeling, after a full days riding in liverpool the only time i was noticing the less pick ups was when about to go to back wheel for a gap or drop and thats fine i can deal with that. front fixed cog it is - except the lad buying my cranks has just pulled out!!! bloody TF kids agreeing to buy parts before they've asked mummy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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