beigemaster Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Hi all, I'm just looking around for a longer frame and was just wandering what the real difference between the XTP and the Levelboss (26 inch versions) really is, weight geometry ect Thanks for you help guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 think the bb is higher on the xtp, and maybe a shorter rear end? you'll have to wait till someone comes on here that has ridden both :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Papasnap Maher Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 xtp dont have bb rise i dont think ^_^ ive got a xtp and have rode more levelbosses than id like to. Xtp is quite clearly winner hands down. shame there so expensive :'( :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishayton Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 (edited) levelboss is 1040 1065 or 1100. xtp is 1055 or 1090. xtp is lighter and stiffer. i have a levelboss and my mate has an xtp. the xtp has a cnc yoke at the brake mount and gives the stiffest feeling brake ever. the xtp has the same height bb as a levelboss(10mm). to be honest id go get a levelboss the xtp is not a £300 better frame. one last thing the xtp downtube is very weak so dints really easily whereas the levelboss is reasonably strong Edit: xtp has a 380mm back end. levelboss is 385mm Edited June 26, 2005 by chrishayton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan@Trials-uk Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 XTP are nice :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Every frame breaks. Basically, they ARE different frames. Don't really get why they can't use XTP geometry on the Levelboss though? Seeing as most of their pros who don't have sig. frames ride XTP's of some kind? 'cept Kenny Belaey... Obviously didn't have much imagination on the go when they told him he could have any frame he wanted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tipsy Jock Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Every frame breaks. Basically, they ARE different frames. Don't really get why they can't use XTP geometry on the Levelboss though? Seeing as most of their pros who don't have sig. frames ride XTP's of some kind? 'cept Kenny Belaey... Obviously didn't have much imagination on the go when they told him he could have any frame he wanted... ← Lmao mark, that link is classic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan@Trials-uk Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Every frame breaks. Basically, they ARE different frames. Don't really get why they can't use XTP geometry on the Levelboss though? Seeing as most of their pros who don't have sig. frames ride XTP's of some kind? 'cept Kenny Belaey... Obviously didn't have much imagination on the go when they told him he could have any frame he wanted... ← £695.00 for 9 months, Nice. If the Levelboss had the XTP Geo, I dont think the XTP will be anything special then. :- Kenny's frame, what do you mean "no imagination", maybe Kenny Likes the frame? Have you ridden a Belaey? Its very nice on the backwheel, along with the front, and nice to do other stuff on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 In comparison to, say, the Vinco or the Caiso, the Belaey is just a sprayed Levelboss. That is what I was getting at... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan@Trials-uk Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 (edited) In comparison to, say, the Vinco or the Caiso, the Belaey is just a sprayed Levelboss. That is what I was getting at... ← But it is Kenny's Sig frame isnt it? Maybe he dosnt like other designs of frame, part from this specific one. Its not a sprayed Levelboss, This one uses different material, has diferent chain stays, headtube, top/down tube, totally different frame. ^_^ The frame that Martin Hawyes(sp) is using now IS a sprayed Belaey. :'( :- Edited June 27, 2005 by trialsuk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 To be honest, I can't really be arsed explaining what I mean any more... Let's just agree to disagree and all that fag stuff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunkey_monkey_boy Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 the xtp rides a shit load nicer, i've riden a couple of different levelboss's and didn't think they were any better than any of the onza's i've riden but when i got on the xtp i was blown away, its a very different bike, so nice i've been considering getting one for a few months but cant justify it...yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tipsy Jock Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 the xtp rides a shit load nicer, i've riden a couple of different levelboss's and didn't think they were any better than any of the onza's i've riden but when i got on the xtp i was blown away, its a very different bike, so nice i've been considering getting one for a few months but cant justify it...yet! ← Or ever! £400 is a stretch for a frame methinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Or ever! £400 is a stretch for a frame methinks ← too true! 400 is about the limits i would stretch to for a frame, 700 or whatever it is for an xtp is just ott! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunkey_monkey_boy Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Or ever! £400 is a stretch for a frame methinks ← yeah but theres always the lovelly option of getting the geo and then asking clive to build me a mod frame :D £400 it is then (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 yeah but theres always the lovelly option of getting the geo and then asking clive to build me a mod frame :P £400 it is then (Y) ← tom, are you getting a leeson mod per chance? :D" if so, then i wanna have a ago :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunkey_monkey_boy Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 who me? no (Y) its a possibility, the stocks not great for natty and i can't really be arsed building a second stock, i'd end up only riding one of them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burton Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 In comparison to, say, the Vinco or the Caiso, the Belaey is just a sprayed Levelboss. That is what I was getting at... ← The Belaey has a 1080 wb with a +10mm BB rise (Y) The NEW XTP that Hermance is riding has got more BB rise...summitt like +40mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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