spunkey_monkey_boy Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 right i'm building up a djinn for a mate ande i've just put the rear wheel in and it doesn't even nearly reach from one drop out to the other. i measured it and its come up at 125mm!!! what the fooks going on? and what hub do i have to run. please explain asap because this bikes supposed to be shipped to germany next week!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 Is it a new frame? Sounds really dodgy to me! Ain't mod rear axle spacing supposed to be 110mm? (Or 106 if you're "special") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 Yeah, the drop-outs are splayed. Mods have 110mm wide rear hub spacing apart from faggot Montys that have 106mm. Stock hubs are 135mm wide, so that'd be the only other thing it *might* be, but at 125mm drop-outs it just sounds f**ked... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 Koxx seem to be a bit dodgy with their back ends. Mine (26" levelboss) is about 3-4mm out (too narrow). Doesn't cause a problem at all for me, but it's obviously a quality control issue :shifty: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 Could just be so it's a tight fit for good stiff? :shifty: What you can do is try and look at the frame from behind, and see if they're equally spaced away from the seat-tube, as you look 'down' the frame. You can also dick around with bits of string and rulers to work out how far tweaked it is too. Check around the welds/tubing near the welds and look for stress marks. If, as I suppose it might have, done it's been spread 7.5mm-ish each side bringing it to 125mm, I'd have thought there'd have been some sign of damage? Could just've been the box being mangled in transit or something? Or just shit quality control... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nb88 Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 My zoo! python seems to have really wide dropouts :shifty: . My profile hub can fit in it very easily with about a cm space each side... and i bought it 2nd hand...are the dropouts screwed then? :shifty: . When i tighten the wheel bolts the dropouts have to bend back in quite a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunkey_monkey_boy Posted June 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 i've tried just doing the bolts up and theres far too much space and the frames far too stiff to bend in. i got the frame 2nd hand throguh caleb off one of his mates and just can't understand why it'd be like this, there's no re spray happened cos its koxx silver (polished) and the stays look spot on its just when you put the wheel in you realise they aren't. i'm really really pissed off about this because it needs building a shipping to germany asap!!! cheers for any help and if anyone can get hold of caleb and ask him what wheel was being used in it and whats going on i'd greatly appreciate it :shifty: (yes i've already pm'd him :shifty: ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nb88 Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 i've tried just doing the bolts up and theres far too much space and the frames far too stiff to bend in. i got the frame 2nd hand throguh caleb off one of his mates and just can't understand why it'd be like this, there's no re spray happened cos its koxx silver (polished) and the stays look spot on its just when you put the wheel in you realise they aren't. i'm really really pissed off about this because it needs building a shipping to germany asap!!! cheers for any help and if anyone can get hold of caleb and ask him what wheel was being used in it and whats going on i'd greatly appreciate it :) (yes i've already pm'd him :shifty: ) ← If theyre stiff then it does sound like a major problem...especially if its 15mm out :shifty: . I have a feeling my python stays are wide because you're meant to use snail cams on the inside - but im not, ive got the profile with no spacers at all, and just bend the frame when i tighten the wheel bolts. Anyone know anything about this? It's a python '04 and i seem to remember my mate having the same thing on his '05 a while ago too. Is it a problem if i dont use snail cams? Should i have some washers or whatever in there do you think? Cheers. Nozman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urpedigreechumdog Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 Crazychrispearce runs a try-all hub in his Djinn and it's fine, not sure what size it is, it's the old unsealed try-all hub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 Rick who had the frame just ran a sealed onza mod hub tom, and it was fine he just ran the usual spacers you get on the axle with the hub. He never had any troubles with it so i dont see whats happened. Anyway sent you a pm :shifty: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyroo Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 Whack some chain tensioners on the inside of the dropouts, that should reduce the space a little bit. On my Echo, I had loads of space, and a tryall hub, and the droupouts spaced it enough to fit perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 If in doubt, pack it out :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyroo Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 If in doubt, pack it out :lol: ← Quoted from my wife on our wedding night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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