rav Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 What do you think ? :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 What do you think ? :- ← not on a 26" bike the tyre would rub on the bb area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartridge Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 Horizontally yes, along the line of the stays... no, not without having your BB getting full of water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Tupman Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 What do you think ? :- ← So what BT have done it then have they?? (Y)" if you had the stays mounted to the seat tube and not the BB then I think you could get it pretty much touching the stays but i'm not sure how long that would be? matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 Probably not worth the effort. 385mm works fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 to be honest, that is the uglyest frame I have ever seen! surly it will feel reeeeeaaaly long with the long wheelbase and short chainstays? I cant imagian it will ride nicley :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 (edited) EDIT: Looks... Interesting. Not a fan of how it looks myself, and as has been pointed out, water and other sorts of shit entering the BB will be a problem. Would it not be possible to eliminate that problem with just a very thin sheet of metal covering the hole? Edited June 16, 2005 by N.Wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishayton Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 i really like that! lol i bet it would sit so well on back wheel. is it going to be released? looks like it ll need a 100mm bb shell though like that vario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIX Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 i do really like that, although as ali said I think with such sort stays maybe they should shorten the front aswell. I bet it will ride sweet either way. Good to see something different/origonal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rav Posted June 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 i really like that! lol i bet it would sit so well on back wheel. is it going to be released? looks like it ll need a 100mm bb shell though like that vario. ← Frames are in stock from a week, but I don't have time update site. First NINJAs deliver to the UK within 2 days. Of course with wide BottomBrackets Contact selectbikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIX Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 Do you have any geo you could post up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonPace Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 I am a fan. Shorter chainstays but make you feel way more balanced on the backwheel. Longer front end in my opinion is a good thing especially for front taps and such... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishayton Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 what sort of price are we looking at? and could i have some more info on geometry. bb rise? cheers chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbanPoet Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 bb rise? ← +20MM - www.btbike.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatmike Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 News headline! (Y) "Pete Wright sues BT bike for them breaching copyright issues over the hole in bb shell" :- I can see it happening. What's the head angle on that beast? I couldn't see it on the site, there was more, far useful information on paint saving inventions. It seems very long. Looks nice, obviously we'll have to wait and see untill people've tried them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Tupman Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 Nice frame not really my cup of tea but hey (Y) What I do find annoying thought is how you have asked if it's possible when you know you've done it ;) whats the point why not just show it to us no be honest I think thats a bit poor to try and hype everyone up and then show us pics. matt :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 He once told me that he had patented 1.2mm wall tube in the use of bike frames, so i'm sure he has everything on that frame covered.. Can't see the point in the hole really. Looks nice though, not my sort of thing really. ← The hole's there because basically, they've worked out the radius of the wheel, have measured it back from the dropout to the BB shell, then moved it as close as they can. To make sure the tyre will fit, they've had to remove part of the BB shell. No hole = tyre rubbage, I'm guessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich4130 Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 The hole's there because basically, they've worked out the radius of the wheel, have measured it back from the dropout to the BB shell, then moved it as close as they can. To make sure the tyre will fit, they've had to remove part of the BB shell. No hole = tyre rubbage, I'm guessing. ← Yea, I was being dumb, surely they could have added 5mm to the stays :'( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janson Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 would be less of a gimmic if they did. i can't fault 385 or whatever i have on my frame. i don't really know, and couldn't care less, it rides beautifully anyway. and i don't like the look of that frame at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotchDave Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 Yeh, but then they'd have to rename the frame, and that would be a catastrophe. :'( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janson Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 and removing such pretty graphics could be a pity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totaltrials Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 The hole at the BB yoke - the threads will be covered by the BB amd the BB has a shell and sealed beasrings so there wont be a problem with that especially as the bbs which should be available with the frames are good quality FSA DH bbs. The chainstays are 365mm so it would give a very comfy bike to ride, I know a lot of people like the sound of 365mm chainstays and some don't each have there own opinion, but has anybody ever actually ridden a trials frame with 365mm chainstays :'( Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartridge Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 but has anybody ever actually ridden a trials frame with 365mm chainstays :'( ← Mod bike..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-0 Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 Not really a bike for manualing, lol.... Hmmm, dodge! That is seriously a :lol: bike around the BB but i think the overall look isn't that bad. Don't like those CNC parts on the chainstays, looks rotten and they have made it so your tyre will have to look like a gay squashed semi circle (which they probably do look like but nevertheless looks pretty mank) i could see i being quite good for riding but surely those chainstays/BB is going to cause some trouble. Does anyone else think they have copied the Danny Bulter frame colour and just added some gay sparkle??? Steve :'( o and thanks for moving this 'NEWS' to this section just as i posted, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totaltrials Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 There is no space for a front freewheel true, but most stock riders in the UK do not run front freewheel, and if they do, this shouldnt be the frame choice for them. The frame is +20 bb so it's not too mad. The BB and Yoke area is solid enough to prevent flex because of the long BB so there won't be a problem. You would also get better balance from a longer Bottom brackt aswell as the short chain stays and a +20 bb rise, so I would expect the frame to be the most controlable frame available. As you say, the only bad point is the lack of Bottom backets, the only Bottom brackets available are the ISIS bottom brackets which i will be doing with the frame, but if people don;t have ISIS cranks I would be prepared to do different frame deals to supply the frame bb and cranks with it. Phil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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