MrMonkey Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 newsround are commenting on it now...... ebay have hit back" they are doing nothing wrong apparently haha (selling charity concert tickets) but now goivernment have got onto ebay saying its wrong. whoop. ← eBay haven't done anything wrong. They are allowing people to use their service as intended to sell their goods in an aunction fashion. eBay haven't put a foot out of line, Bob Geldof can go and f**k off right away the f**king stuck up fanny, even some African man said he had become obsessed with Africa's poverty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 ebay user: "live-8-ticket-scam-wrecker" bids £10,000,000 :( well...i do believe they won't sell this time around.. adam ← That is a f**king awsome idea. I'm sure it ain't gonna go to court, as there will be something printed on the tickets - "non-transferable", so by selling them, the seller is breaking the law. Either way, when do ebay ever take people to court? N.B. The link no longer works - Perhaps eBay are clamping down? I personally would sell the tickets. It's not "sick", it's logical. In fact, if you gave half of the money to charity, I would go as far as saying that it's ethical too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 eBay haven't done anything wrong. They are allowing people to use their service as intended to sell their goods in an aunction fashion. eBay haven't put a foot out of line, Bob Geldof can go and f**k off right away the f**king stuck up fanny, even some African man said he had become obsessed with Africa's poverty. ← Think thats the first tim eive ever agreed with you :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexx Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 That is a f**king awsome idea. I'm sure it ain't gonna go to court, as there will be something printed on the tickets - "non-transferable", so by selling them, the seller is breaking the law. Either way, when do ebay ever take people to court? N.B. The link no longer works - Perhaps eBay are clamping down? ← Well I just listened to Ebay Live on the Radio, they are letting all ticket sales go ahead, because it is considered an 'open market', but it is upto sellers to police their own actions, in other words if someone bids several thousand pound £ and wrecks the auction, there is nothing the seller can do about it since ebay will not press charges. Also ebay are giving all the money they make from selling live8 tickets back to the charity. Bob Geldof then came on air and told them to shove their dirty money up their ass, followed by a torrent of other insults :) If you check ebay you'll notice about 80% of all the auctions are getting trashed by people just throwing in loads of crazy bids to wreck the auctions :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardman Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 That is a f**king awsome idea. I'm sure it ain't gonna go to court, as there will be something printed on the tickets - "non-transferable", so by selling them, the seller is breaking the law. Either way, when do ebay ever take people to court? N.B. The link no longer works - Perhaps eBay are clamping down? I personally would sell the tickets. It's not "sick", it's logical. In fact, if you gave half of the money to charity, I would go as far as saying that it's ethical too. ← I almost got taken to court over no paying fees I gave in and paid before my credit rating suffered. Live8 will do nothing to sort Africa out, nothing will. You could argue that the acts are getting an unethical gain out of the concert by increasing their record sales. They wont be giving that to Africa they will be spend ing it. Mr Geldof thinks hes god well I have news for him f**k back to you little hole and die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deagledaddy Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 The thing is. Geldof said in friday night with jonathin ross that the gigs were not for raising mony for the charity, only to raise the profile. they will have covred the costs with the £1.50 test lottery tickets thingys. Giving money will not even make a dent in the debts owed. the gig will most likely not make that much of a difference. Hmmm its a tough one, but I think people should be allowed to sell them, the people who buy them should be less silly and not go ott with the amount they would really pay (not talking about fake bidding). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardman Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 Ebay manager is taking all live8 tickets off ebay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexx Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 Ebay manager is taking all live8 tickets off ebay. ← No, Their Not... Read my post further up. Ebay Specifically stated they operate an open market and will not be removing any tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biketrialler Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 Interesting this is... ebay just deleted a good 15 or so auctions, some of which ending in the next 45mins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardman Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 Yes they have it was a new flash at 7ish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 I almost got taken to court over no paying fees I gave in and paid before my credit rating suffered ← That's completely different. Paying fees is one thing, non-paying bidders is completely another thing. As I said, there is no way it'll stand up in court, if it ever got that far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai the Socket Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 Id sell them and keep all the money. :) ← Haha good lad :( :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexx Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 Yes they have it was a new flash at 7ish ← ah, fair enough... Strange U Turn :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 In theory E-bay cant do it because sellers can use the excuse "Oh I was going to give the £10,000,000 to charity" yeah, course you would I disagree with it to be honest. Its morally wrong. Finanically quite clever, but still wrong :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardman Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 What about the wrist bands thn surely they should be taken off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrEvil270183 Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 ain't 'starting' anything BUT.... even when 3rd world debts are cleared the countries are still screwed. Was reading the paper a week or so ago and saw a story about how more than most of the money thats been 'lent' to 3rd world contries has gone into the pokets of their leaders. Thats why the countries never seem to develope. In the same story it stated that a 35million pound debt was cleared for one country (i forget which) then a week later its leader bought a 32million pound personal jet. Now whats that all about? Live8 is bull, 3rd world help is bull and 3rd world leaders talk bull and line their pockets with money that should be used to beneifit the majority of the worlds population. for some sick reason i am a firm believer in 'dog eat dog' and 'suvival of the fittest'. I know its contraversial but let them sort their own mess out, who really cares as-long as we're doing fine. ← what if some how you lost your arms tomo, and couldnt do anything for yourself anymore...dog eat dog world and everyone just left you...would you agree too survival of the fitest then? how can they sort it out themselves when there dying everyday and there leaders do shit all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardman Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 what if some how you lost your arms tomo, and couldnt do anything for yourself anymore...dog eat dog world and everyone just left you...would you agree too survival of the fitest then? how can they sort it out themselves when there dying everyday and there leaders do shit all? ← you cant do anything is the answer. If the leaders of these countries are crap get rid of them, see what happens. You get iraq all over again. Therefore nothing can be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pork Pie Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 But something can be done. Obviously this won't just make everything better, but it's a step in the right direction. I imagine, sadly, the situation will stay similar to what it is for probably our lifetime, but if the steps can be taken now to get things on a roll type thing, not as many people will die in the long run. As someone's said anyway, this ones just for awareness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexx Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 In the end it'll sort it's self out. Our civilization is basically nothing in the grand scheme of things. If you pause and imagine the world was 24 hours old, the dinosaurs would have been around a year, yet man only 1 second, and in that 1 second there has been SEVERAL whole civilizations, Aztecs, Greeks, Romans, Egyptians etc etc, and our current civilizations. Sure, we think that with technology and what-not things will be 'different' for us, but i'm sure every civilizations before thought they'd go on forever too - and they didn't have nukes and war machines, lol! In the end chances are we'll wipe out and start again, and have a whole different set of problems all over again... fun! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sameer Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 Mr Geldof thinks hes god well I have news for him f**k back to you little hole and die. ← I seriously can't comprehend your opinions, dude. It seems like you couldn't give naff all shits about the African peeps, and how royally f**ked their lives are. And one of the guys trying to help them is also in your bad books...?! Ok fair enough, Robert's obviously pimping himself up tenfold through all this charity bizz - but he is actually doing f**king something as well, you know! Regardless of how little may or may not go to charity through the concerts and what not, he's raising awareness so so much more than if there was no Bob Geldof at all. He's taken a page out of the Bush administrations books, whereby if you continually pump stuff to the public, eventually it'll settle in the minds for sure. People are far more aware of third world problems now as a result of this charity uproar of late, which can be nothing but a good thing, surely? Your attitudes towards "solving" the problems are so wrong, man. You know that it's the Western worlds fault, yet you choose to believe we should have no part in fixing it. That's like like accidently stabbing a guy then leaving him to bleed. And I know there aren't any actions to take that'll sort it out overnight, of course. But it's the small steps over a long term that give results. All this shit you see these days are those small steps. So don't be hating them just because you don't see Africans driving round in Limo's or whatever miracles you expect. And I don't get it your reference to Iraq at all. How will a similar case arise by removing African leaders and replacing them with better candidates? I'm clearly too stupid to understand. As for the ticket sales, well I don't see what's so wrong with that really. But if the buyers were prepares to spend so much, why didn't they just buy them at the time? Fair enough though if they ran out when they tried. Oh and Alexx, what a dumb thing to say...! So like, if anyone ever has any problems at all, they should just sit back, relax and know that nothing really matters anyway 'cos we're all gonna die and aliens are gonna rule the world so let's all just watch porn and eat chocolate all day long 'cos nothing really matters afterall. Hahah, that's what it sounded like anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardman Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 I seriously can't comprehend your opinions, dude. It seems like you couldn't give naff all shits about the African peeps, and how royally f**ked their lives are. And one of the guys trying to help them is also in your bad books...?! Ok fair enough, Robert's obviously pimping himself up tenfold through all this charity bizz - but he is actually doing f**king something as well, you know! Regardless of how little may or may not go to charity through the concerts and what not, he's raising awareness so so much more than if there was no Bob Geldof at all. He's taken a page out of the Bush administrations books, whereby if you continually pump stuff to the public, eventually it'll settle in the minds for sure. People are far more aware of third world problems now as a result of this charity uproar of late, which can be nothing but a good thing, surely? Your attitudes towards "solving" the problems are so wrong, man. You know that it's the Western worlds fault, yet you choose to believe we should have no part in fixing it. That's like like accidently stabbing a guy then leaving him to bleed. And I know there aren't any actions to take that'll sort it out overnight, of course. But it's the small steps over a long term that give results. All this shit you see these days are those small steps. So don't be hating them just because you don't see Africans driving round in Limo's or whatever miracles you expect. And I don't get it your reference to Iraq at all. How will a similar case arise by removing African leaders and replacing them with better candidates? I'm clearly too stupid to understand. As for the ticket sales, well I don't see what's so wrong with that really. But if the buyers were prepares to spend so much, why didn't they just buy them at the time? Fair enough though if they ran out when they tried. Oh and Alexx, what a dumb thing to say...! So like, if anyone ever has any problems at all, they should just sit back, relax and know that nothing really matters anyway 'cos we're all gonna die and aliens are gonna rule the world so let's all just watch porn and eat chocolate all day long 'cos nothing really matters afterall. Hahah, that's what it sounded like anyway. ← The Iraq thing. Well Iraq was an unstable country run by a dictator, he was taken away and now the various rebel groups are causng havoc. This will be the situation in the majority of African countries. Namibia, Rebulic of Congo and Liberia are some examplkes of the probems of rebel groups and the constantant instability and infighting, civil wars that are taking place. I do care about Africa I see it as a problem the west and in particular the conlonial European countries have creatred and its out responsiblity to sort it out but there are better ways to spread the message than some famous singers who are clearly going to benefit from this. If these singers were to donate all the extra income they recived as a result of their perfomance at Hyde Park that would be a different matter. Im not sure what would be the best way to spread the message Im not an expert merely studied Sountern African history, geogrpaghy, politics, economics and culture in my uni course. Removing the debt will not work as the politics of these countries is corrupt, he rich only care about themselves and not the poor of their countries. If anything is to be done the regiona differences of countries needs to be implemented to understand the micro level variations in economy, politics, culture etc.... Then and only then will the west be better placed to provide a solution that can target the specfics on a micro level, grassroots scale. This will not happen due to the political hierachy of bilateral and multinational organisations and the governments. Anyway Ive said enough if I had the time and some books I would quite happily write a 5,000 word essay for you but I dont. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexx Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 Oh and Alexx, what a dumb thing to say...! So like, if anyone ever has any problems at all, they should just sit back, relax and know that nothing really matters anyway 'cos we're all gonna die and aliens are gonna rule the world so let's all just watch porn and eat chocolate all day long 'cos nothing really matters afterall. Hahah, that's what it sounded like anyway. ← WTF? :blink: I didn't give any kind of comment towards what should be done about world poverty... I was simply saying one day it WILL sort its self out, and it won't be through us sorting it out, thing's always re-balance themselfs eventually. How thats interpreted as not careing and aliens invading ( :'( ) and whatever else your talking about, i have no idea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 Ebay have now banned selling of live8 tickets on their site after getting a load of stick for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 If you pause and imagine the world was 24 hours old, the dinosaurs would have been around a year ← :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sameer Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 Haha, I don't think anyone picked up on that but you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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