joker Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 one my mates and his girlfriend between them got 2 pairs of live8 tickets having each sent in 1 text each, they are now selling a pair on ebay, currently at £400 apparently. To me this seems wrong, they have given £1.50 to help the live8 appeal, but now stand to gain £400 themselves?!?!? Im probs a bit jealous as I didnt get tickets but even so, this still seems wrong to me unless they give the money to the appeal(which i doubt). they doing what anyone would do in the situation or profiting unjustly from the situation? j0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biketrialler Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Humm, in that situation i'd probably ebay them and put half of the money to charity, keep half for myself for being lucky. Maybe thats selfish, I dunno, but thats me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Id sell them and keep all the money. (N) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyJames Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 I'd keep the money. I know it is a shitty thing but I wouldn't be able to afford to turn down £400. I do my bit by giving to homeless people :"> *awaits outrage* Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pork Pie Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 (edited) Will everyone that's been reserved a ticket now have been notified then? Yeah, I think that's wrong actually (N) Oops Edited June 13, 2005 by Dave Gill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punkrider Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Sigh Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardman Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Live8 itslef is a big farse just like Gordon Browns ideas. Live8 will do nothing the problems in Africa are so deep and complicated that it has gone pasdt the point where the only solution as I see it is to wipe the place clean of life and re populate, imoral and unethical you may argue but very logical. Anyway enough of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicH_87 Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 might as-well sell them if you ain't gonna go anyway. Its up to the buyer if they want to be stupid and pay £££'s for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pork Pie Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 (edited) Live8 itslef is a big farse just like Gordon Browns ideas. Live8 will do nothing the problems in Africa are so deep and complicated that it has gone pasdt the point where the only solution as I see it is to wipe the place clean of life and re populate, imoral and unethical you may argue but very logical. Anyway enough of that. ← I completely disagree. I think if the World bank drop the charges the 3rd world countries 'owe' them, it could make a lot of difference. It's f**king stupid it's gone on for this long, when a decision like that is the obvious choice. Let's not start this though, heh (N) Edited June 13, 2005 by Dave Gill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicH_87 Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 I completely disagree. I think if the World bank drop the charges the 3rd world countries 'owe' them, it could make a lot of difference. It's f**king stupid it's gone on for this long, when a decision like that is the obvious choice. Let's not start this though, heh (N) ← ain't 'starting' anything BUT.... even when 3rd world debts are cleared the countries are still screwed. Was reading the paper a week or so ago and saw a story about how more than most of the money thats been 'lent' to 3rd world contries has gone into the pokets of their leaders. Thats why the countries never seem to develope. In the same story it stated that a 35million pound debt was cleared for one country (i forget which) then a week later its leader bought a 32million pound personal jet. Now whats that all about? Live8 is bull, 3rd world help is bull and 3rd world leaders talk bull and line their pockets with money that should be used to beneifit the majority of the worlds population. for some sick reason i am a firm believer in 'dog eat dog' and 'suvival of the fittest'. I know its contraversial but let them sort their own mess out, who really cares as-long as we're doing fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMonkey Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Dunno if Rich covered this but Aids is currently Africa's f**king problem. Anyway if I had a pair I would of had 'em up for £1k buy it now, c'mon rich boys spend your mula (N) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Aids is currently Africa's f**king problem.← Pun intended? Anyway, Michael, you do realise that the Africans possess a wealth of knowledge we would be able to utilise to help us? So eradicating them would totally negate that? I'm guessing you wouldn't care 'cos they're all black or something, but there we go... If they want to sell them, it's their choice I guess. If someone really wants to go more than they do, then so be it if they want to pay oodles of cash to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 I would most definately have mine on ebay. What do I want with going to see the f**king darkness and shite like that??? Any pop star etc who says that they are doing it for a good cause is talking crap and they know it. I agree with Rich_87 on this. I mean its a really shitty situation they are in, but I mean thats life. I probably cant begin to imagine the kind of heardships these people are going through, and their government IS a total joke, but again, thats life. Who decides which countries gets their debt cancelled etc? Where is the line drawn? It bolocks. They have a debt, and no matter how unfair it seems, its not really. The fact that their leaders are taking the largest cut of money is f**ked up and that needs sorting, maybe then they would have a chance, but debt shouldnt be cancelled, no way. Having different rules for different people? THAT is unfair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 This is the 1st thing ive heard about this live8 thing neway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 I would most definately have mine on ebay. What do I want with going to see the f**king darkness and shite like that??? Any pop star etc who says that they are doing it for a good cause is talking crap and they know it. I agree with Rich_87 on this. I mean its a really shitty situation they are in, but I mean thats life. I probably cant begin to imagine the kind of heardships these people are going through, and their government IS a total joke, but again, thats life. Who decides which countries gets their debt cancelled etc? Where is the line drawn? It bolocks. They have a debt, and no matter how unfair it seems, its not really. The fact that their leaders are taking the largest cut of money is f**ked up and that needs sorting, maybe then they would have a chance, but debt shouldnt be cancelled, no way. Having different rules for different people? THAT is unfair ← There's a line they are drawing for a cut-off point as to how much in debt you should be, apparently. I think the main problem is that the West has basically put them in this position (stuff like how Nestle went over there, said to the new mums "Here's some milk formula you can use as well as breast milk". They give it to their kids, and it turns out the formula means they can't go back to breast milk, so the kids have to have this Nestle formula, hence Nestle being boycotted by lots of people - not me though, 'cos Fruit Pastilles are f**king tasty), and so it's kinda our fault for it happening. The debt isn't lifted by the countries being given £35million or whatever - the coalition of Western countries assume the debt, so they pay off the person who should have the money - largely us, to be fair. £4 of every £10 of aid is spent on consultants who work out who should have what money, which is ironic. Anyway, the whole deal is that this time the debt is absolved if they root out corruption. Not gonna happen, really... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 If I sold a ticket on ebay for £300, £30 donated. Thats £30 more than they would have got if i went to the thing. (N) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardman Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 I completely disagree. I think if the World bank drop the charges the 3rd world countries 'owe' them, it could make a lot of difference. It's f**king stupid it's gone on for this long, when a decision like that is the obvious choice. Let's not start this though, heh :( ← Money is just one part of the 3rd world problem, giving out money is proven not to be an efficinet way to solve problems i nthe 3rd world otherwise there wouldnt be a problem now. The problems in the 3rd world stem further back into history with the colonialisation of Africa combine this with the political, economic, cultural, envirnomental and socail construction of ASAfrican countries which may I add are all different creates a situation were each individual regional area needs to be studied and understood before any solution can be successfully implementated. This is a hell of a lot of work and while this is going on the situation is getting worse. Sorry to be negative but Africa is screwed for life just like this countries congestion problems are never going to be solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardman Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 Pun intended? Anyway, Michael, you do realise that the Africans possess a wealth of knowledge we would be able to utilise to help us? So eradicating them would totally negate that? I'm guessing you wouldn't care 'cos they're all black or something, but there we go... If they want to sell them, it's their choice I guess. If someone really wants to go more than they do, then so be it if they want to pay oodles of cash to go. ← Hey I did say it was unethical and imoral idea that works in theory. In practise I have no idea you can only see if this things work by carrying them out. Thats why this world is f**ked up its all based on probabilities and predictions lok where its got everyone. I actually did a whole course on Southern South African countries which covers all of this what do we do how do we do it shit. Africas f**ked, the equalibrium was passed a long time ago. You cant get ride of the policitcs in African countries as it will just end up like Iraq and seeing as there corupt they will obviously remain in power and the visious circle continues. Unethically I stay leave the poor to suffer and die, even though it was our fault in the first place. I have the same view for homeless people in the UK. Theres two types the homeless becasue they have a good reason to be, loss of job, fammily problems they sould be sorted out as its a situation theyve got into thats not their fault. Then theres the lazy f**k heads who shouldnt be helped as its their own fauilt for being stupid and lazy and not wanting a shit job when they know thats all they will ever achieve. If thats their attitudethen shoot them their no use to society. Sorry that my harse opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionic Balls Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 ebay user: "live-8-ticket-scam-wrecker" bids £10,000,000 :( well...i do believe they won't sell this time around.. adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyroo Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 I reall really wanted some tickets, the line up is amazing and i realy wanted to see pink floyd so badly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMonkey Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 ebay user: "live-8-ticket-scam-wrecker" bids £10,000,000 :( well...i do believe they won't sell this time around.. adam ← He's legally obliged to pay the money, he's well f**ked. The people selling the tickets could take him to court and get that money from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardman Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 He's legally obliged to pay the money, he's well f**ked. The people selling the tickets could take him to court and get that money from him. ← If I was the seller Id take him to court just for the fun of it, scare the shit out of the person and get some money out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Poyntontrials.com Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 You'd lose a lot of money if you lost the case through. This time they are making sure all the money goes into health, education and in some cases infastructure building. There are alot of press wartching closily and browns repuatation is on the line so he is making sure it does too so i'm faily sure it will this time round. Mabe its not the answer but we have to start somwhere and this is a positive and necessary first step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pork Pie Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 Might not care, but, an extract from BT Broadband customers homepage thingymabob: "LONDON (Reuters) - Live 8 organiser Bob Geldof has condemned as "sick profiteering" the sale of charity concert tickets on auction Web site eBay. Tickets to the star-studded London show, which aims to pressure world leaders into fighting poverty, were given for free to the winners of a text lottery. But they immediately started appearing on eBay for hundreds of pounds. "I am sick with this," Geldof said in a statement. "What eBay are doing is profiteering on the backs of the impoverished. "The people who are selling it are wretches. But far worse is the corporate culture which capitalises on people's misery." Geldof organised the July 2nd concert 20 years after the Live Aid sensation which raised money to help the starving in Ethiopia. Rather than raise money, the 2005 concert aims to raise the profile of African poverty and influence the G8 group of industrialised nations which meets in Scotland in July. Four other concerts will be held around the world on the same day. Performers for the London concert include U2, Paul McCartney, Coldplay, Madonna and REM. eBay could not be reached for a comment but the Daily Mirror newspaper quoted the company as saying they were selling the tickets because "we live in a free market where people can make up their own minds." The newspaper said eBay had offered to donate 1 pound for every pair of tickets sold but the singer had rejected this, saying it was not in the "spirit of the event". Over two million text messages were sent in a bid to get hold of tickets and the winners were notified on Monday. Pairs of tickets were being offered for several hundreds of pounds on eBay on Tuesday." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocktrials Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 newsround are commenting on it now...... ebay have hit back" they are doing nothing wrong apparently haha (selling charity concert tickets) but now goivernment have got onto ebay saying its wrong. whoop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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