War Memorials

[PaRtZ]

i know that if i was to have a memorial when i die, i'd like people to make use of it :(

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lol Will same here. If I go before you make my tombstone with a gap to rail nearby? :)

Yeah I am completly against riding memorials, graveyards and memorial benches. I've seen some amazing lines i could actually do (for once) but as its a memorial bench, im not going to even consider it

Big :lol: from me

[Trials Punk]

Yes I'm sure dead people wouldn't mind you riding their war memorials. In fact they might even be impressed. The point is that THEY ARE THERE FOR US TO REMEMBER THEM AND FOR US NEVER TO FORGET THEM. So I don't think the fact that those people who have died wouldn't mind it. Thats not for us to decided. Yes those people died for our future, but did they die to let people ride over and sometimes damage what is there to remember them. No.

The memorials are there for us to look at and remember how many millions of people who died.

[zoojames]

To be honest, if I was in a war, died, and had a memorial put up for me, I woudln't really give a monkeys if someone rode a peice of stone supposed to represent me, I'd rather be buried at home near the people I love rather than have my name someplace that means jack all to me...

I'm also a person who thinks wars/armies are stupid... I hate the whole idea of pointless conflicts for power :lol: meh one day everything will be peacefull and boring but thats the way I like it!

James :(

[iatola says]

Personally I think it is sick that people even think about doing this.

Amen to that buddy!

Trev

[Siders77]

I would NEVER ride a memorial! I think it's so disrespectful! how would you feel if one of YOUR grandparents died in the war, you went to see them and you found out that their grave stone had been badly damages just 'cause there was a nice gap there?! I personally would be bloody mad and upset!

Ah well, that's my 2 pence :lol:

[Twilite]

Its not on , i'd never ride on one...

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Not even in Hertford?! :lol:

[Enigma]

"Tell them of us and say,

For their tomorrow,

We gave our today."

does that not say it all. They gave up things they loved so that we could have the privalage to even ride trials. So we at least owe them the right to have a nice respectful memorial without huge chunks taken out by bashguards by thoughtless individuals. Ask yourself would you give your life so others could live with freedom?

[manuel]

odd one this .....

I dont ride them because other people really care about them and what they mean to them ..... personally - im not keen on them - I dont like them because I dont really want to remember that a f**king shit load of people died for pretty crap reasons in pretty horrible ways, all the time - i know what happened I know that Theyre heros - but they did that so we can get on with stuff now....

so i would prefer if everyone had the same attitude and it was ok to ride on them - celbrate life .....

but as that aint gonna happen ..... NO RIDING - not because it will give trials a bad name but because of a little respect to peoples beliefs and feelings.

[JT!]

I would never ride on as such. But maby if there was a good gap that you wanted on film or something, i'd do it once and never do it again, if you know what i mean. And i would definatly do it UCI.

[Tomm]

9/10 WWII casualties prefer UCI.

[rocktrials]

I'm also a person who thinks wars/armies are stupid... I hate the whole idea of pointless conflicts for power :turned: meh one day everything will be peacefull and boring but thats the way I like it!

James (Y)

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i think that world peace is very doubtful. i dont beleive there will ever be peace.

"Tell them of us and say,

For their tomorrow,

We gave our today."

we do seem to be very selfish these days dont we.....50ish years ago, our ancestors(?) fought for us and for our freedom for the future......yet if you look at it, today we talk about global warming and it affecting our earth and that our children etc will have a worse world (you know what im getting at) yet nothing seems to be acted upon. yeah we here all these conferences about global warming with Bush and Blair, yet how long will it actually take to make a change??? and i quote from the TV (something along the lines of)

we have actually started to realise that global warming is affecting our earth

full stop. ;)

[Trials Punk]

To be honest, if I was in a war, died, and had a memorial put up for me, I woudln't really give a monkeys if someone rode a peice of stone supposed to represent me, I'd rather be buried at home near the people I love rather than have my name someplace that means jack all to me...

I'm also a person who thinks wars/armies are stupid... I hate the whole idea of pointless conflicts for power :turned: meh one day everything will be peacefull and boring but thats the way I like it!

James (Y)

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Well to be honest the main reason why memorials are here are for PEOPLE TO REMEMBER AND NEVER FORGET. Thats the point I've been trying to get across but you obviously can't read. The piece of stone is not meant to represent you. It would have been there to remember (how many times have I said this now?).

Imagine this, there were no memorials over here in the UK. None at all. The only things here to remember fallen victims of the World Wars was the odd one or two gravestones in your local church yard. How often do you go into a church yard and see a gravestone of a World War victim. Not often I think.

Without the memorials alot of people would have now forgotten what had happened. I doubt there would be any marches in memory of them either.

I agree with you on the fact that wars/armies are stupid. They are stupid I wish they did't exist. But here you sound like you were suggesting that the fact that Britain went to war with the axis powers was pointless and stupid. They were in no way going into the conflict for power, they were defending thier allies countrys before the axis got to Britain (which they nearly did). We only had a struggle for power at the very end of the war which was between Britain, US and Russia. This was over technology though. The cold war started straight after WWII ended.

Why can't we just leave the monuments there, not damaging them. So that people after us can see them and think what they were for, ask questions and remember what happened.

[Waynio]

i personally think as long as you arent doing any damage it is ok. if you landing on your bashring or twangging your pedals down all the time on it i feel it be a little dis respectful. if your doing damage then yes it is, if your not and its not causing any problems to fellow citizens then no problem, if you get asked to move along and get cheeky then that is purely dis respectful in all areas. being polite and saying you will move on is fine. we have had the police (in Keighley) watch us ride on it, they were saying as long as no damage is done they didnt mind, altho the 3 police officers who said that were being very kool with us and we were being kool with them. they even wanted us to pull some wheelies for them :turned: if the police dont mind it then i suppose it would be ok, but if an older more mature person asks you to move on dont react back and give them crap. thats my thorts on it any way.

Waynio...................

Altho i havent actually ridden on the memorial for quite along time. i always ride around it as there is better things around it rather than on it.

[hazzyhaslam]

I don't ride on them.

The main reason I don't is because they are there for the thousands of families that have no grave side to go to. No fathers, mothers, daugters or sons to visit. With no bodies to bury; these memorials are the only places that they have to go to pay respect to there loved ones.

Think about it, If one of your family died at war and there bodies were never found wouldn't you want somewhere peaceful and respectful to remember them? I know I would. I'd want an untouched haven to go and commemorate these fallen men and the thought that the memorial was damaged in anyway would make me feel sick.

As other people have said, there are better places to ride. Some of you need to take a reality check.

[Towler]

I don't ride on them due to people thinking what a little nasty bugger, got rocks and plenty other things to ride near me so i don't see the need. Even if it is a bench dedicated to someone, just incase I annoy or hurt someones feelings.

[chrishayton]

i personally think as long as you arent doing any damage it is ok. if you landing on your bashring or twangging your pedals down all the time on it i feel it be a little dis respectful. if your doing damage then yes it is, if your not and its not causing any problems to fellow citizens then no problem, if you get asked to move along and get cheeky then that is purely dis respectful in all areas. being polite and saying you will move on is fine. we have had the police (in Keighley) watch us ride on it, they were saying as long as no damage is done they didnt mind, altho the 3 police officers who said that were being very kool with us and we were being kool with them. they even wanted us to pull some wheelies for them  :turned:  if the police dont mind it then i suppose it would be ok, but if an older more mature person asks you to move on dont react back and give them crap. thats my thorts on it any way.

Waynio...................

Altho i havent actually ridden on the memorial for quite along time. i always ride around it as there is better things around it rather than on it.

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I agree with wayne. personally I feel uncomfortable riding memorials but as long as no damage is bein done i dont see the problem, i never use my bashring so I cause no damage to them, and if their is something where my bash mite be used i just wouldnt ride that line. i do think its bad though with all the little kids on base and onza's destroying walls with the bash plates. they should learn to ride somewhere else. if you dont damage the wall then i dont really see a problem, war memorials are a community thing and at the end of the day we are part of that community.

[zoojames]

Imagine this, there were no memorials over here in the UK. None at all. The only things here to remember fallen victims of the World Wars was the odd one or two gravestones in your local church yard. How often do you go into a church yard and see a gravestone of a World War victim. Not often I think.

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Whenever I ride past a war memorial I don't think, oh god bless those men who got burnt from the inside out due to nasty german gasses, that could be linked to the creation of James Porters anus, and they died for me, what great people. I dont think anything at all, just, oooh old grey stone with green bits growing on it and goths smoking...nice...

James :turned:

[Michael Hardman]

I wouldnt ride on a war memoial despite how inviting they are.

Same as graves but the church wall thats different I hate religion.

Worsest tin Ive done was place a for sale sign on a grave sone, I was drunk.

[Trials Punk]

Whenever I ride past a war memorial I don't think, oh god bless those men who got burnt from the inside out due to nasty german gasses, that could be linked to the creation of James Porters anus, and they died for me, what great people. I dont think anything at all, just, oooh old grey stone with green bits growing on it and goths smoking...nice...

James :mellow:

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I must admit I hate people like you. Your ignorant and disrespectfull. You don't seem to have anything sesible to say. I can't even belive what you just said "I don't think of anything at all" instead you say something about james porter??!!

How old are you mate? You should think about what happened back then. Instead of just shonning it as something which dosn't matter to you.

[Ali C]

When I ride keighley I normally go on the war memorial but I didnt actually know it was a war memorial untill recently, I never really looked at it. It wont stop me riding on it, its pretty nice.

this is going to sound worse than it is (probably) but war memorials dont really mean much to me, thinking about how people died is probably the last thing that goes through my mind when I see one. I just dont really care that much.

I still try not to bash them, but thats pretty much the same with anything I ride.

I expect people to diss my post, but it wont change how I feel. Just because I should feel a cirten way doesnt mean I have to.

[Waynio]

its one of those things that some people will look at it in different ways to maybe their religion and stuff. but the main reason is, no damage being done means you aint really being dis respectful my personal opinion iv seen people go on the memorial in keighley and bash it and iv held my head in my hands and thort "F**K" and then just said "come on please dont use use bash or pedals to get up it" and people seem kool to listen as we all know what it is. and we do respect that we dont want to damage it.

Waynio..........................

if people saw the one we ride on in keighley i think most would be possessed into going on it as there is a couple of good things to do on it. Bucky is the king of manueling up onto the memorial and manueling around it.......... :mellow: :-

[UrbanPoet]

I must admit I hate people like you. Your ignorant and disrespectfull. You don't seem to have anything sesible to say. I can't even belive what you just said "I don't think of anything at all" instead you say something about james porter??!!

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Hmm, I dislike people like you (hate is a strong word). Get off your damn high horse and stop trying to act all mature, you come accross as an idiot in a grown-up conversation. Get some perspective. Just because people ride on war memorials, it does not make the Soldiers' efforts null and void. The wars happened. Many people think about it all the time and I'm sure that a couple of kids riding on some f**king concrete is not going to change a damn thing!

[Lukeee]

Whenever I ride past a war memorial I don't think, oh god bless those men who got burnt from the inside out due to nasty german gasses, that could be linked to the creation of James Porters anus, and they died for me, what great people. I dont think anything at all, just, oooh old grey stone with green bits growing on it and goths smoking...nice...

James :mellow:

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You toss bag...

...You think people our age had a choice wether they went to war or not? You couldn't just say i don't believe in wars/armies....

[ben_travis]

When I ride keighley I normally go on the war memorial but I didnt actually know it was a war memorial untill recently, I never really looked at it. It wont stop me riding on it, its pretty nice.

this is going to sound worse than it is (probably) but war memorials dont really mean much to me, thinking about how people died is probably the last thing that goes through my mind when I see one.  I just dont really care that much.

I still try not to bash them, but thats pretty much the same with anything I ride.

I expect people to diss my post, but it wont change how I feel. Just because I should feel a cirten way doesnt mean I have to.

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ali,

you have hit the nail on the head for me. thats exactly my thoughts. if somebody is so disgusted about it they will say, asking me to move on politely is what i want, i dont need people gettin upset and shouting to move on. i wouldnt say riding on a memorial is disrespectful....

it ISNT riding on the graves of the dead. this object is just a memory for certain people, to remember there parents/grandparents. i am FULLY AGAINST riding on a grave as that is specifically for one person whom will be actually below you. thats disgusting to even think about riding on that.

but memorials are not a grave, its rememberance of happiness, which me riding on it is happiness for me. i know its not exactly the same, but this said i wont go out of my way to ride this memorial because its a memorial i ride it because i feel it will be an acheivement for me to make a gap/an up.

meh.

ben

[Brian Bleech]

I think a little tact is called for sometimes. If you are gonna ride on memorials, make sure there aren't any people around looking like they are having a sit remembering their dad, husband, whatever. Come back later - it will still be there!

Don't ride them on remembrance day and near that time. Be sensible.

I am lucky as they aren't any war memorials to ride on in leeds, so I don't often face this problem. We do ride on walls near one (but aren't part of the memorial) and we got asked to move on, so we did. To repeat what Wayne said if you ride on one, thats your choice, but if you get ask to move on, don't kick up a fuss. If you do your a knob!!!