Trials Punk Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Just been flicking through two or three videos I downloaded off here and I saw that people use war memorials to ride on. Now I want peoples opinion if this is right or wrong. Personally I think it is sick that people even think about doing this. Millions of people died in the 1st and 2nd world war. THE DIED. People spend money and get memorials put up, and then people ride over them possibly destroying and damaging them. Its crazy to think how idiotic some people are. My gramp served in the war in burma against the japanese. Burma was one of the worst places on earth you could fight. In japanese POW camps if you didn't do what you were told they would fill uncooked rice down your throat until it wasn't possible to eat no more. Then put a hose pipe down your throat and fill it with water till you literally burst. People were having to push their bowels back in before dieing. Some people are so ignorant. It also gives trials a bad name, most people would be disgusted to see someone graffiting a war memorial same as people would be disgusted to see us ride on them. What are other peoples opinions? I'd also like this to stay here in Trials Chat where it belongs. As this is very much to do with trials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smo™ Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Agreed, I've always wanted to ride the war memorial along Southsea but I'd never dream of actually doing it. Purely out of respect for the people who fought and died to save their country and the new generations. In the eyes of many people I may just be a 'punk kid' but I know who deserves my respect and I'm more aware of moral fibre than most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 yea good point. They were put up to hounour the people who gave their lives. im not sure where this is from but i think "they gave thier tommorow so we could have our today" says it all. it is just plain stupid to ride on them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Drewery Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 I dont think that riding them is right, if you did you would be giving trials riders everywhere a bad name, which we already have problems with. For some reason people see us as bad vandals because we ride on walls but they are idiots because they ignore chavs who spraypaint and smash things in the street. Rididng memorials would just push their opinion further. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxrider Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 (edited) I don't really agree with riding on war memorials , it pretty much the same as riding a graveyard :lol: . but yesterday i did get thrown off one, by this woman who told me it was a memorial. I left but there was not a sign anywhere saying that it was a memorial. So I did feel a bit guilty after that :( Edited June 11, 2005 by manxrider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials Punk Posted June 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Its fair enough that you didn't realise but its still wrong. Like on the portsmouth ride they were bashing the hell out of this war memorial. This was a ride to commerate someone who had passed away too. Irony? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 (edited) i agree that we should all respect the people who have died in the war for us all. in bangor there is a war memorial, which has a centre, which is the main focal point, then there are two circular walls about 10 meters away from the centre memorial bit, these contain nice rocks and are really tempting to ride. i ride them sometimes but i do feel a bit watched when i do so. i mean, people can sit on them and kids are allowed to run around o them, so why cant we make good use of this? tar Edited June 11, 2005 by WILL ARNOLD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 I'm gonna go against the grain and say I'm not that bothered. I don't think it's disrespectful really? I always thought that if I had a memorial, I would like people to enjoy it. Anyway, people are different on the forum - whenever I ride, there's always people riding on the Manchester war memorial! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials Punk Posted June 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 People running up and down war memorials is wrong. They arn't playgrounds. I ride near a war memorial. Theres nothing wrong with riding on something near them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 for the sheer fact that its disrespectful. Would you like someone to make "good use" of one of your relatives graves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smo™ Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 I'm gonna go against the grain and say I'm not that bothered. I don't think it's disrespectful really? I always thought that if I had a memorial, I would like people to enjoy it. Anyway, people are different on the forum - whenever I ride, there's always people riding on the Manchester war memorial! ← If I saw someone riding a memorial I wouldn't really be all that bothered, after all, it's nothing to do with me, if he/she wants to ride it then fair enough. However, if I saw an inexperienced rider smashing his bash ring/plate into it and chipping pieces off left, right and center I wouldn't think twice about telling him to get lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 People running up and down war memorials is wrong. They arn't playgrounds. I ride near a war memorial. Theres nothing wrong with riding on something near them.← thing is, its is actually part of the war memorial, but its not where people put the flower etc on the 11th.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialkid Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 well at portsmouth you know i rode and bashed at it kyle, so sorry. but yea it is very disrespectfull as these people essencially gave us the freedom we enjoy today and a memorial is a small thing to say how thankful people are then we go and brake them. :lol: me and kyle often ride next too a war memorial which is very tempting to ride on to be honest but we never have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endohopper Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Complex . You see , these people gave their lives so that we CAN ride and be free , and do as we choose . You should see it as the people to whom the memorial was erected would welcome it , but your own sense of dignity should prevent you . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim-Rodriguez Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 What about churches with graves that are over 100 years old and most them slpit and falling appart? is that ok to ride? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyboy2005 Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Not alot to be said really, its just plain WRONG :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicH_87 Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 I'm gonna say it's wrong because it's going to offend the relatives and comrades of the people who died that visit and maintain it. However if the people who died were somehow resurrected and could watch us i'm sure they'd be equally impressed. :lol:" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 i know that if i was to have a memorial when i die, i'd like people to make use of it :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 I think its wrong. With enough other stuff about, I think riders should use a bit of discretion (sp). War memorials remind me of what people my age went through to guarantee our freedom. I look at the shit that goes down in this city and I can't help but think the guys that are still alive must wonder why they bothered. But still, I think we should leave the memorials alone as a mark of respect to those guys. Does rather spoil it when there's some pointless bashguard mark or big chip in it when, lets face it, there are probably 500 other objects with the same dimensions in your town, if you bothered to look. Have some respect - leave them be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukeee Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Its not on , i'd never ride on one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 i know that if i was to have a memorial when i die, i'd like people to make use of it :lol: ← Yeah, but what about your family who'd be paying to have the memorial made? Unless they were ultra pro trials riding, I think they'd be a little unhappy to see a memorial for a loved one being battered and smashed? I'd have thought the same would've gone for a war memorial. It obviously doesn't matter to the dead people 'cos they're...well...dead, but for relatives who are still alive, it's not gonna be super good. It's just one spot you have to leave alone, really, so it's not like it's the end of the world to not ride it, so it's best just to leave it alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrbanPoet Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Personally, I don't see anything majorly wrong with riding on them. As long as no real damage is done, and as long as you don't ride the plaques, there isn't much wrong. Sure, they are there to commemorate those who have fallen fighting for our country, but it's only riding. I'm certain they'd rather have people making use and having fun on them. You could argue that they died for our freedom, and we're using that freedom to do something we like. Although, I do cringe when people mess up and bashguard parts. Just be respectful and know where the line is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleharrys Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Yeah its wrong for obvious reasons, its all about respect. I think its sad to see people have such little respect for those that died for our freedom. Also we have a hard enough time trying to get accepted with out being thrown out every where. Mindless damage to memorials doesnt exactly help our case? Those that do ride them should think about what there doing on both levels, its just a backwards step otherwise. Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoyoyo Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Its deff wrong, even if the person its in memory of would want you to ride on it there might still be a relative who could get a tad distressed to see you ridin on their relative memorial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 There's one near us that has a gap over some stairs that are technically part of it, but we ride those... But then again, we don't do any damage, and it's away from the actual memorial. We never ride a bench if it's in memory of someone though, and for example today there was a massive rock so we rode over to that to ride, and saw it was in memory of someone... So we didn't ride it. Kinda depends on things like how obvious it is etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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