JIX Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 My koxx rim lasted me over a year with roughly a grind every month. It has now cracked and has a big hole on one side. Now Im not smooth and I ride both street and natural and I was very happy with it. No problems with koxx blocks and braking, the grind lasted a month which I was quite happy with. It is a compramise, wide or strong. You cant have both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SQuiT-man Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Come on guys. none of these rims are actually that bad. As the posts above said, you compromise soe things for other things. If you want an ultra-wide rim (which I do, as I find my 38mm rim still has too much tyre roll for my liking) without it being exessively heavy, the viz/koxx/onza hog rims are good choices. They are built for TRIALS- that is, hopping/riding over objects, in which a light bike helps. You wont get excessive strength and lightness at the same time. But I would say they aren't that weak anyway- the koxx team all use theorietically slightly weaker rims anyway, seeing as the koxx rims are the same but non-eyeletted. Look at how benito ros's wheel held up on his GIGANTIC drop off at koxx days, he only bent it a bit, and viz/onza hog cheese rims are slightly stronger than those cheese rims. At the end of the day, it comes down to that saying: Light, Cheap, Strong You can only have two of the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 as im in need of a wide rim for my new frame i been looking today and found some good looking rims might not be as wide as your looking for but hey tioga factory dh which is 35mm looks nice rhino lite and xl both around that width and look nice wtb laser disc rim look nice to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the666ers Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 The thng is though the arent really designed for trials. Just rims picked out of a catalogue and marketed as a trials rim. They aren't designed from the ground up or anything like that and over at pulo their original intention for the products probably wasn't trials. Just clever marketing and such like has made them seem like the perfect trials rim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SQuiT-man Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 D521/ ex721's arent designed for trials either, but they are very light and strong. What elseo would you need a rim to be 47mm wide for, and possibly drilled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Bleech Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 D521/ ex721's arent designed for trials either, but they are very light and strong. yeah but D521's are deigned to be a light and strong rim, which can take a beating. which in turn makes them good for trials! What elseo would you need a rim to be 47mm wide for, and possibly drilled? ← riding in the snow :) just buy a sun doublewide and drill it :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pork Pie Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 The top class riders use them because they are paid a mint to and get free bits left right and centre. ← Sorry to drag this back up a bit, and I do agree with you about the rims etc completely, but, 'top class' riders get either hardly any, or no money to ride for a certain name. Alot of it's just paying for transport and entry fee's ect, and giving bike parts to them to either test, or, when they're broken. It's not like a salary, really it isn't. You noticed how Koxx wouldn't pay for TRA to fly to the bikeshow?You noticed how Ashton starting selling his own stuff? Or how Akrigg works in AVC? They don't rely on the money they get paid to ride. And I really doubt the Koxx riders have more than one mod and stock at a time. That actually had nothing to do with this topic though :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 If I was a Koxx pro rider, and had access to their frames at the price they pay (something like £40 a piece inc shipping etc?), I would have lots of bikes too :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the666ers Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Nah that's true, I think I was getting a bit excited in my reply but you get what I mean anyhow. James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 so you wouldnt care if you spent £35 on a rim that lasted a week as long as it held your tyre in for the time it was built/alive for? ← what i was getting at is as long as its strong and does its job fine im not bothered what name is printed on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thechink Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 lets actually answer this boys question. widest rim possible. 47/6 mm koxx.....non eyeletted. viz.....eyeletted 38mm echo ronnie viz aswell etc etc smaller 521 tioga sun etc etc your also forgetting people that a rim is only as good as its build. if you have a shit build the wheel wont be that strong. if you wantr a strong wheel go for a viz/koxx 36 hole and build it 4 cross. thechink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave85 Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 so i heard that sunn make some wide disk rims that you can just grind to make them rim brake compatiable. this true? what rim is it? and any other rims that are strong and hold grinds weell? eound the 40mm + ark? That was Tom's question, note the "holds grinds well" bit. Hog/viz/koxx rims do not hold grinds well by ANY stretch of the imagination. also: your also forgetting people that a rim is only as good as its build. Build has nothing to do with how easily the sidewalls dent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thechink Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 well all it takes is to get the grinder out a few more times than usual. how hard can that be. also you can dent any rim. it all depends on the angle and the harshness of which you land. i know a viz/koxx/hg probably aint as strong as 521 for sidewall strenght. but until people realise that trials is harsh on your bike. no matter what you do yo uwill break parts bend parts whatever. if you want width you have to sacrafice. fact. thechink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_Porter Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 why dont echo or someone make a rim that is deeper than the normal. thats what gives a rim a lot of its strength, surely it isnt that hard to make a wide rim that is deeper like a 521? might weigh a little more but who cares... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 They think we will though, which I guess is the problem... Market research would probably be a good idea for trials companies, but there we go. Lot more expensive than "Hi, is that Alexrims? Yes, I'd like 100 of your finest rims, thanks." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartridge Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 why dont echo or someone make a rim that is deeper than the normal. ← Onza Ronnie? Its got the depth where you need it too, at the sidewall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_Porter Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 (edited) Onza Ronnie? Its got the depth where you need it too, at the sidewall. ← its not strong enough in side ways movement though... thats why you get spokes snapping in them...and i thought my ronnie was awful. what do you mean in the sidewall? why is that good? Edited June 10, 2005 by James_Porter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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