Dylan_ Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 (edited) Okay, so i got my evolve around october last season. Not much riding on it because of the snow here in canada, but it's sunny out now, and i've been riding as much as i can. so anyway i'll get to the point. I'm not too much of a hack but i still land some things hard :)" , but it shouldn't have a big effect on the seat stays... but thats wrong :- .... take a look for yourself: I think it may have been from my magura, although i ran a booster, so the flex would have been minimal. anyway coment welcome. oh and the lack of paint is because the paint was cracked, and i thought it was the metal, so we lightly sanded the paint off and the crack was gone, so i kept riding... but i guess it just needed some time because the metal actuly cracked. BTW i took it into my LBS and we're sending it away monday, so i can get a warentee frame(norco has a 5 year frame warente if i'm not mistaken) Edited June 5, 2005 by Dylan_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backgren Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 stupid place for it to crack :- Didn't you have a Desalvo (or something similar)last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakley Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 unlucky dude, realy weird that it has gone there spcially when you was using a booster!! get a warrentied one like you say!!! joE! :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan_ Posted June 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Nope, thats my first trials bike/frame. It is a weird spot, not sure what actuly made it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefletch Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 What you want?......a medal But how about editing away the picture's as to telling the entire forum and pissing all over Norco's chips. Whats the point in telling everyone you broken a bike and then saying ypour gona try and get it on warreenty. If i was Norco, i'd say feck off. think of it like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biketrialler Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 To be fair it is exactly the same frame as the onza t raptor, mission reefer etc... and shares the same premature deaths as them! Good stuff on the warranty though :) I guess thats what makes Norco the cool company it is ;) My old Reefer went on the chainstay there and similarly cracked around the seat tube - it was cracked around there from almost day 1! The chainstay went after like 3 months :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-0 Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Norco....tut, tut :- I thought they were supposed to be real strong frames.... Hopefully you can get a warranty. The crack may be due just to all the braking, stressing down on the chainstays but this shouldn't really be anything to do with it breaking. All frames should be able to cope with rear brake flex/stress etc in my opinion. Rather that than it being super light!! ;) You could always get a onza t-rex, strong as steel but aluminium, also weighs about the same as steel. Why the heck ain't it just steel. :) Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Tom Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Unlucky mate what frame are you going to get now, tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biketrialler Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Unlucky mate what frame are you going to get now, tom ← Read the first post. :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Nichols Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 (edited) Norco....tut, tut :- I thought they were supposed to be real strong frames.... Hopefully you can get a warranty. ← The thing is unless you have a bike carved from a solid block of titanium and made about 12inches thick then you're not gonna have a frame that'll last you forever. All trials frames WILL snap eventually and that's a fact. This doesn't effect norcos reputation in anyway, they still make the best North Shore / Freeride bikes in the world! Plus, eight months is still a long time for a frame on a bike that retails at 1000 canadian dollars - thats about 450 pounds sterling!! She's lasted brilliantly well! EDIT: Spelling. Edited June 5, 2005 by nichols_sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazmaz03 Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Thats quite strange that it has gone in that place, I have not known a bike to crack there if they have a booster. Just get a new one like you said you are doing, then just hope that it does not do it again. Gaz :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter l Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 thats too bad dylan, i was considering getting an evolve frame and fork but now i'm not so sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 If you're operating a strict "Cracked once - won't buy it" policy, you might want to try a different sport... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan_ Posted June 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Peter, it's a nice frame. I know you would probably like after what happened to your old one. What you want?......a medal But how about editing away the picture's as to telling the entire forum and pissing all over Norco's chips. Whats the point in telling everyone you broken a bike and then saying ypour gona try and get it on warreenty. If i was Norco, i'd say feck off. think of it like that as for that, you're an ass, sorry but it's true. It was their fault it cracked, faulty welding. And for 8 months of owning it it'd really only been ridden for 6 months because of the winter. But i don't regret buying it, tough (other than the faulty weld) fairly light, and the down tube doesn't deant easily. in the end a nice frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 It wouldn't have taken 8 months for a faulty weld to break though? Isn't that more just like it's been ridden, so it's died (a la all frames)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan_ Posted June 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Maybe the weld was weak, i'm not sure. It was still faulty because it cracked, right? Somethign went wrong, it wasn't because i layed my bike down and started crashing on it with a mallet. There was some sort of error in the construction process of the frame. Think of it this way, take a flexable metal rod, around the size of chain-link fence. Bend it, bent it back, bend it again, so on and so on, it startes to wear, and then it snaps... now to relate that to my frame... i think the weld might not have been bonded completly to the metal, thus creating more flex than there should be, and the repeted flex cause it to crack. Thats my thoughts on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Maybe the weld was weak, i'm not sure. It was still faulty because it cracked, right? Somethign went wrong, it wasn't because i layed my bike down and started crashing on it with a mallet. There was some sort of error in the construction process of the frame. Think of it this way, take a flexable metal rod, around the size of chain-link fence. Bend it, bent it back, bend it again, so on and so on, it startes to wear, and then it snaps... now to relate that to my frame... i think the weld might not have been bonded completly to the metal, thus creating more flex than there should be, and the repeted flex cause it to crack. Thats my thoughts on it. ← Not really the same comparison. The edge of the tube nearest the weld is going to be the weak point on the tubing, so it's going to break around there. It's more unlikely you'll actually 'tear' the material. For example, on almost all the frames I've broken they've broken by the weld - it's just because the weld is a fairly stiff point, so the join between the stiffer point and the more flexible one is going to take all the force. If you use it, it's going to fatigue the metal, so it's going to break at the weakest point, which would be around there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartridge Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 There was some sort of error in the construction process of the frame. ← Sort of. Its just a bad design. These things happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totaltrials Posted June 5, 2005 Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Thats pretty much the main place where most frames will crack, especially old frames, Ive seen so many frames go there, but frames now seem to correct that and don't seem to go there. Phil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan_ Posted June 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 okay I undestan now. Thanks Onzaboymark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarshRider Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 my giant went around that area as well. also my leeson cracked around that area also! i found mine were caused my certain moves i learnt! eg doing 180 gaps to 2 wheels.... although this does happen on older frames! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe b Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 s'foooked! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyboy2005 Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 (edited) What you want?......a medal But how about editing away the picture's as to telling the entire forum and pissing all over Norco's chips. Whats the point in telling everyone you broken a bike and then saying ypour gona try and get it on warreenty. If i was Norco, i'd say feck off. think of it like that ← Talking about sharing your opinion, people go a tad too far :lol: o yer unlucky, that is a weird place for a crack :( Edited June 11, 2005 by bennyboy2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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