andyroo Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Besides the obvious aesthetical differences between the two frames, is the geo actually any different? I pasted the two frames on top of each other, and all the important parts (headtube, bb, dropouts) seemed to be in the same places, does anyone actually know if there are any differences that would effect the handling of the frame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTTY___ Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 If you're on about the CNC'd headtube and the standard headtube Echo Teams there is a difference. CNC'd: The BB had been placed higher upwards to give a better stand over feel. The Wb is the same but comes in to sizes again. 1033 and 1003. NON CNC. Lower BB one size. 1033. I have the standard headtube team and everyone who has rode it has loved it! They all say the same. Extremely flickable and poises so easy on backwheel. I have found that i can sidehop better and wheelswaps are a dozzel. Bunnyhops take some getting ust to and taps are easier. Hope this helps... Scotty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyroo Posted May 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Do you know the difference in BB rise cos when pasting the two piccies over each other, i cant see any difference in rise at all! Maybe it sonly up by a mm or something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTTY___ Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Do you know the difference in BB rise cos when pasting the two piccies over each other, i cant see any difference in rise at all! Maybe it sonly up by a mm or something... ← I havent a clue. Im just going on what Deng has told Craig and Craigs told me >_< Dont think its much, you really cannot tell till you ride one. Scotty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bath trials Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 05 Team: Geometry (365mm fork blade with 45mm forward, 10mm bottom head set): Wheel base: 1030mm (size Large) or 1000mm (size small) Head tube: 120mm / 71 degreed Bottom bracket: 68mm / 55mm higher Chain stays length: 362mm 04 Team: 1033mm wheelbase, 363mm length chainstays, +50mm bb height and 71°. - 1990g inc bashplate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Hardman Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 the geomotry must be different becasue they feel so muhc different when riding them, seems easier to pedalhop the newer one but harder sidehop it. and the newer ones feel a little nicer on the back wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corish Posted May 25, 2005 Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 I have the standard headtube team and everyone who has rode it has loved it! ← I don't love it..... (Y) Its ok but not my sort of geomatry... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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