Dave 221 Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Hi all, Just wondering if I could get some opinions on wether or not it's worth spending the money and upgrading from an ACS Claw to a White Industries ENO freewheel? I ride pure street sort of stuff (CLS but without the hugeness :D" ) and very occasionaly a little bit of natural. I ride mod btw (Y) Thanks for any help, Dave M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 yes deffinatly, unless you can buy a profile wheel which would be better. Depends on your budget, but i'd say that you deffinatly go roe the ENO, you will deffinatly feel the difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBProductions Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 I have the same problem at moment as the weight of a profile puts me of a little as it unbalances the bike. Also I keep breaking something just as I have enough money. Go eno if you want lightness and nice engagement profile if you want long lasting performance. Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmowerman Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Profile or king every time for me. I had the eno trial and didnt have any luck with it, now ive got a king and its 195659873757 times better (Y) It's deffinetly a good upgrade but if you can save more get a profile :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 The ACS's are perfectly ok when you know how too look after them. The ENO are really good, but the price is a bit too much to make them excellent. Profile is the best setup you can have, by far. Kings are insanly expensive, but better than the profile. (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 The ACS's are perfectly ok when you know how too look after them. The ENO are really good, but the price is a bit too much to make them excellent. Profile is the best setup you can have, by far. Kings are insanly expensive, but better than the profile. (Y) ← ACS's really don't compare to Eno's at all. I had to go back to an ACS after using my Eno, and I just couldn't deal with it. Mushy, slack engagement, and it skipped like a schoolgirl. Eno's are properly nice. Someone on here's got a 2-year-old one running up front on their bike. That speaks a lot about it. The only problem with them is that after the first week or two you put it on, some thick grease will ooze out of the sealed bearings, and generally deposits itself on the pawls and springs. You just have to strip and clean the freewheel a couple of times after that, and it'll work really nicely :D Sikamon's Profile seems to skip just as much as my Eno does (very, very infrequently), yet his Profile (when coupled with the wheelbuild, new 18t front sprocket, etc.) cost 3x the amount my Eno did. Same engagements too, as he's running 18:12. Anyway, if you can afford it, get an Eno. Lots of World Champions can't be wrong :wub: There's been a bit of a trend for our FFW-running, UCI friends who used to run ACS Claws but now run Enos. It's for a reason... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionic Balls Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 yes yes yes...get the eno..you can find them for £60 if you shop well (Y)" mine is coming up for 2 years old...still love it :D adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFerris Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 I have both a Chris King and a White industries ENO freewheel (72Point) setup. I’m using the White industries at the moment and I have to say that I prefer the ENO over the King. Just seems to engage better and obviously balances the bike better when you have a proper fixed hub on the back. I remember trying a friend’s bike with an ACS and it felt terrible compared to the ENO. Go for the ENO you wont be disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai the Socket Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 My mate's selling an Eno. Bedded in for 2months. No skipping. Calops@hotmail.com is him, and he's calops on here. (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomturd Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 Auto Reply The topic starter has been validated. Moving topic from New Members Chat to Trials Chat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikamon Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 Sikamon's Profile seems to skip just as much as my Eno does (very, very infrequently), yet his Profile (when coupled with the wheelbuild, new 18t front sprocket, etc.) cost 3x the amount my Eno did. Same engagements too, as he's running 18:12. ← totally agree but what i will say is i would still rather have the profile as it cool and gold and it dont rip the shit out of my trousers (Y) if u can afford it get a profile, if not get an eno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE-0 Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 yes yes yes...get the eno..you can find them for £60 if you shop well (Y)" mine is coming up for 2 years old...still love it :D adam ← Haha, only me lol, £60 off ebay + £1 postage :wub: :wub: :wub: Cant wait to get it, im sure my bike will feel soo much nicer than it has ever felt before!! ACS claw's are really good still for the money but never will come close to ENO because of their shallow engagements, wobbly prawls and half the engagement. Get an ENO like me Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dean Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 yeah I used to run an ACS claw till I upgraded to a ENO and the difference is very noticable when going back to riding with an ACS. There are more ingagements and the overall feel and build quality of the ENO is far better than the ACS so if you can afford it then the ENO is your best bet. Can't comment on either the king or profile so I won't. (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jel Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Yes, the difference from an ACS and an ENO is tremendous :D ! It changes the whole feel of the bike, giving you more engagement and (i've heard) i don't think that they can affect your riding if they do skip, unlike ACS that affect it alot? :D . Don't smash your teeth out just because your bloody freewheel dosen't work :P . Cheers, Josh. PS- My brother only just did it last week :D . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 In the couple of times my Eno's skipped, I haven't actually felt it, apart from hearing the "Bang" from it. You get a tiny bit less power 'cos you effectively move the stroke round 5° to the next engagement point, but you don't really notice it :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie - CTT Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 na defo stick wid the acs claw. i have had me monty acs claw for at least 2 years and the freewheel it self hasnt slipped very nice freewheels... i have a eno and broke it within a week... go for the acs claw... dont know what the difference is with the monty acs claws but they seem strong.... profile hubs aint werth the money... all the people i have seen with them they have broken... hope this helps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionic Balls Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 don't want to sound like a dick charlie...but perhaps you don't know many people :( there's alot of people on here with profile hubs who worship them day and night, and lots of others with ENO's that love them...to bits. i don't doubt that your acs has been fine, but the tolerances to which they are made, and the quality of the materials and design and far better on the profile and eno than the acs. Hence, they don't "usually" last as long. you get what you pay for >_< adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakley Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 i would definatley upgrade from a claws to an eno, i did and i loved it, but i have now upgraded again to a profile. they are so much better!!! you cant even feel the weight difference between a profile and a freewheel! they are amazing so i would definatley get the eno unless you can afford a profile!!! joE! >_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFerris Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Have a look at Differance between ENO ACS & King This clearly shows the quality difference between the ACS and the ENO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Motivator Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Well I don't ride mod, I don't have an ENO and I haven't up graded from an ACS. BUT I can talk to you, engagement wise. I went from a 21ept Hope XC working on the 'same' sort principal as an ACS to a 72ept Chris King. At first I didn't notice a difference but as soon as I got back on to someone elses bike with a 21ept hub, the difference was tremendous. Its just nicer having more engagement there for you when you need them although it wont make your riding dramatically better over night. Id say go for it, and all the people I know that have ENOs are very pleased indeed with them. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTT - Echo Team Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 I used to ride 20" with a ACS, and it was good, I now ride 26" and still use an ACS. they're sound. :) ross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseytrial Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 eno for sure!! i moved from an acs to an eno and my gaps and general riding instantly got better (Y) ad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corish Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 The ACS's are perfectly ok when you know how too look after them. The ENO are really good, but the price is a bit too much to make them excellent. Profile is the best setup you can have, by far. Kings are insanly expensive, but better than the profile. (Y) ← You don't really need better than profile really... They last long enough and are nice, strong, sound mint, etc. I'd rather buy two profiles rather than one king (roughly same price) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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