RyanRs Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 (edited) If the world thought like that cockend then I guess all the metally disabled people in this world would 'have the right decision' made at birth!!! Your an older guy and should understand that someday probably not too far from now you will want to make a family. Im sure a thought will appear that it could turn out far from perfect. What are you going to do? Get your own child exterminated? A lifes a life no matter how you look at it! ← Sory, but i couldnt watch my own flesh and blood suffer like that. it would not only be a physical and mental stress on the child for life, it would also cause surver stress on the parents. i have herd of babies being born with very nasty problems and the sheer stress has caused the parents to Split up, as one of them cannot handle the reality of it. Then your left with a child that not only has surver problems, but it has to be brought up by a single parent... think of the extra stress it would cause the parent. By making these decisions - it can cause the WHOLE family a lot of suffering.. i am not saying its alwayse the right decision and yes, everyone shuld be given the chance for a normal life, but sometimes a normal life isnt alwayse possible. Another thing... Dont go calling random people that you dont no, Cockends and Wankers, u got your own opionion (sp?) and you never know whos fist is gona collide with your face for saying it. -if my point is so wrong, then why did the courts allow that fully grown woman allowed to die in hospital under the doctors reccomendation even though the family didnt allow it!? Edited May 17, 2005 by RyanRs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 Basically, the front of her skull is deformed, hugely. Wasn't it Channel 4 that it was on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liss Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 (edited) There are so many different opinions and choices to be made with topics like this; and this is why there are so many disputes in court about cases like these. At the end of the day, it is really circumstantial. There may be some people who are in unbearable pain constantly, and they deserve to be put out of their misery; but this little girl is happy in her life, and will someday be offered an operation that can make her life more normal. For the moment, both her and her family are doing okay, and are relatively happy....this debate could go on for aaaaggeeesss.... Liss xxx EDIT: No, it was Channel 5. Edited May 17, 2005 by Liss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMonkey Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Bennifer you obviously don't know what a troll is, but yes it may turn into a flame war that's upto others to decide not me. I decided that instead of going along with anyone I'd see what they think in more depth about the situation by being a little different. I'm sorry if this annoys you but that shows us more about you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biketrialler Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 "In the context of internet discussions, a troll refers to a person who makes inflammatory or hostile comments, which by effect or design cause disruptions in discourse. Such individuals may have a sociological disorder, which is expressed through the internet platform. Otherwise, they may simply be young and mischievous —using the percieved anonymity of the internet as a platform to test an alternate personae ." That sounds pretty fitting for someone who posts outrageous statements that are guaranteed to piss people off, and for someone who has previously posted about being a real monkey... and talking about themselves from the 3rd person etc. Nice to see you didnt even respond to the argument in question but instead set yourself up for some more flaming. If youve got anything to add to the topic after some of my input id be very interested to read your well informed heartfelt opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMonkey Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 My opinion is that she should be allowed to live, but only if the society she lives in accepts her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siders77 Posted May 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Just found a picture of her.... And, Mr Monkey, how can you say that My opinion is that she should be allowed to live, but only if the society she lives in accepts her. I just don't think that's right in my opinion, I don't know why but it just sounds mean. Not everyone in the community that I live in accepts me for what ever reason... Do you think I should have been killed at birth? (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMonkey Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 No, because at birth you had no personality traits that may make you un welcome to your society. Whereas she is not welcome for other reasons (I may or may not welcome her but as you all seem quite close minded as I have seen on many other ocassions I would rather not disclose, although you may be able to tell) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisa Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Scoiety accepts her? For f**k sake! You want Nazi's to rule the UK from another post and now you want to exterminate children is society doesn't accept them? Your head is completely f**ked. And MrMonkey, the world is how it is because of people that think along the same lines as yourself. Were you bullied or the bully? All this twisted stuff has to come from somewhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMonkey Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Scoiety accepts her? For f**k sake! You want Nazi's to rule the UK from another post and now you want to exterminate children is society doesn't accept them? Your head is completely f**ked. And MrMonkey, the world is how it is because of people that think along the same lines as yourself. Were you bullied or the bully? All this twisted stuff has to come from somewhere! ← I know I made a post about how the Nazis had some good ideas, but you'll also find that I don't want them to the extremes they went nor do I want all of their ideas. I think cleansing the gene pool by STERILISATION would be a good idea, it means we can wipe out major diseases that kill. If people really wanted children they can adopt, they actually help a child then instead of passing on a disease. Also you can be checked to see if a foetus will become a child with downs syndrome and have the pregnancy terminated if it will have downs syndrome, I agree with this and I hope you don't. As what I say is similar to this, just you can't see certain things while a woman is pregnant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echobikes Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Just found a picture of her.... ← I didn't see this program... So up 'til now I been in the dark as to the extents everyone's talking about. A quick question, where her nose is meant to be is some bone... Is that meant to be her nose or deformed teeth? Had a look at that other site... Can't remember name now as closed the link but we have someone like that back home on the island... He never attracts attention and generally (although he doesn't seem to talk to anyone passing by like we might) he seems to have a confident attitude, like they say beauty is only skin deep. (Did I get that wrong? (Y)). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Also you can be checked to see if a foetus will become a child with downs syndrome and have the pregnancy terminated if it will have downs syndrome, I agree with this and I hope you don't. As what I say is similar to this, just you can't see certain things while a woman is pregnant. ← Well that's a rubbish example because Down's syndrome isn't even inherited (Except in like 5% or something), there's no way you could "wipe it out". Even if it was inherited, do you think that many people with Down's have children? So they can't pass their genes on anyway. And perhaps you'd like to tell me what's wrong with having Down's syndrome? People with Down's are usually very happy. Adoption isn't really an option. It's a good idea in principle, but I'm sure most people would rather have a child of their own, it it was possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biketrialler Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 No, because at birth you had no personality traits that may make you un welcome to your society. Whereas she is not welcome for other reasons (yadda yadda = I think she should be dead) ← She doesnt have any personality traits that make her unwelcome to society. And who is anyone to choose if someone should be dead or alive over her parents that love her's wishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMonkey Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Well that's a rubbish example because Down's syndrome isn't even inherited (Except in like 5% or something), there's no way you could "wipe it out". Even if it was inherited, do you think that many people with Down's have children? So they can't pass their genes on anyway. And perhaps you'd like to tell me what's wrong with having Down's syndrome? People with Down's are usually very happy. Adoption isn't really an option. It's a good idea in principle, but I'm sure most people would rather have a child of their own, it it was possible. ← I wasn't trying to say anything about Downs being genetic and if it sounded like that I didn't mean it, I was trying to say for a defficiency people are being killed, that's all. And I wasn't sayin there was anything wrong with downs children. Bennifer once again I'll try to explain. I think that she would be unwelcomed in modern society, if goths are unwelcome because of the way they look I think you'll find uneducated folk would think the same way, and I'm glad you went for the most obvious lead that I think she should be dead. Proving you read things without questioning them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMonkey Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Just a little point, why don't you people accept her for what she is? She is obviously deformed yet you act as if she's normal. If I met her in person with her parents I would say "What a lovely normal child you have" I would inquire more into her problem, because I would rather know more about the condition. Whereas it would seem most of you would rather treat her as a normal person when she quite clearly is extraordinary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 (edited) Have a look on channel 5 now, it's so sad... The girl was born with out a face :P Check it out ^_^ ← i watched last 5 mins and don't mind me but that was f**king horrible i'd hate it if that happens 2 my kids. i wouldn't look at them because i'd just fell like crying because i fell it was my fault, i'd rather have my balls cut of then that happen to my kids to be. Carl :P Edited May 18, 2005 by Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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