<scruff> Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 i was just looking at some pictures that 'hardcorebiking' posted up (good by the way) and looking at the pictures i saw he was running a disc on the rear. now i'm not saying that there rubbish to use as a rear brake for trials but i don't think i could trust a disc :( , ok i'm 10 stone and when shifting my weight around (e.g - doing a gap) thats quite a lot of force. my point being is that your putting your trust in a thin disc that could just snap, as your backwheeling a rail and then you would flip right out or as you land a gap etc. what do you think about using discs as rear brakes for trials? not sure i could use them :) hope you see what i'm getting at. scruff :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartridge Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 The problem is with the brakes not providing enough lock, and frames breaking. The mechanical integrity of the brake itself isnt really an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picki Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 what about spoke flex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartridge Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 It makes everything feel odd at first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Geary Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 i could not trust a rear disk, a rear magura is the way to go. ben :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothy Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 I've never tried it, but i don't think it will feel as nice as a maggie, although it would work better in the wet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 I ran a disc on the back of my mods for a couple of years. It was great at comps, when everyone else was moaning about their maggies not working, mine stayed perfect. However when it came to big street stuff, I never really trusted it. With a rim brake you can grind the rim or add tar to make the brake work better, with a disc if it doesn't work, it doesn't work! I also had the frame issue when using alloy frames...cracked about 3 Echo EM2's by using a rear disc :"> I'm now happily using a maggy on the back of both my trials bikes and find them very responsive and reliable. Doubt I'll ever go back to a rear disc. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Garland Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 I have run rear discs before. Dont Do It !!!!!! They dont feel right for trials, they dont bite enough lock enough or modulate enough. Too easy to hit and just plain nasty for trials. Run a rear maggy set up nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoppellStereo Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 its not that there isnt enough lock, which there is, you have to have it set up properly, its just that the frame will mostly likely give before anything, and as for everyone saying, Go Maggie! :) i do not trust them, ive ridden about 10+ bikes with them, and they all didnt compare to my V brakes, i would love to go rear disc if there was a frame that suits me, but there isnt, so rear V is the way to be! (Y) :-" (Y) ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picki Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 so a 180 mono mini or a 203 avid wouldnt be much good? hmmmm...id like to have a go, but its the pennies issue (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backgren Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 Definately not a Moni mini, dont have the right lock. An Avid would work, or a Hope Trials . I still run a maggie, for the nice feel and the noise... its ace to hear that the brake is OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 Definately not a Moni mini, dont have the right lock. An Avid would work, or a Hope Trials . I still run a maggie, for the nice feel and the noise... its ace to hear that the brake is OK.← yeah, i know what you mean, when ur gapping and you hear your brake go 'honk' you know its gunna hold :) Will (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picki Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 thats what i meant mono trial... (Y) i hate squeeky brakes...evil evil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Drewery Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 Despite what people say, i think that rear discs work well. From all the bikes ive had a go on numerous times that had a rear disc, they lock very well and are very good for manuals. The only problem is the disc tab ripping off, but if your smooth then you should be ok (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotchDave Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 What no one has suggested is a hope mono trial with an adapter up to 205 mm, and finding a frame that'll take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 The only problem is the disc tab ripping off, but if your smooth then you should be ok (Y) ← Unfortunately it's not a case of being smooth though. I found one of the worst things for my frame was hopping/booning up a sloped rock while using the brake, which means the brake is effectively trying to rip itself off the frame with smoothness not even a factor. One major plus of running rear discs is that it makes you seem a much smoother rider, simply due to the absence of braking noise. However I stand by my judgement that for comps discs rule, anything else (particularly big gaps and the like where confidence is a must) forget it! Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 how about the old enduro4, bob from llandudno had one and it was awesome! bloomin brilliant ;) but then the disk tabs fell off (Y) if only someone would bringout a frame that had thick dropouts/disk tabs :) actually, saying that, the new monty mod frames look like they have a good disk tab design, nice n beefy (Y) ta Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 (edited) if only someone would bringout a frame that had thick dropouts/disk tabs (Y) actually, saying that, the new monty mod frames look like they have a good disk tab design, nice n beefy :) ← Sorry to keep contradicting people but again I have to disagree! All my frames cracked at welds, not through the tabs themselves. This indicates that thicker mounts would not solve the problem. The only (alloy) frame which didn't crack was my old Megamo Equip Pro which had the neat stress transfer brace in the rear triangle which seemed to work very well. In fact that frame cracked on the driveside!! As for the monty I thought it was a bit of a joke when it came out- It looks rather poorly designed at distributing stress. Cesar's the only person I've seen who's brave enough to use it, and I expect he gets a new frame at least once a month! Just my opinions! Dave Edited May 9, 2005 by monkeyseemonkeydo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that NBR dude Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 Sorry to keep contradicting poeple but again I have to disagree! All my frames cracked at welds, not through the tabs themselves. ← Thats what happened with my ES3. It didnt take the tab off, it stressed the entire back end, and the whole rear triangle came away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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