Smo™ Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 I did a search and couldn't find anything about these being posted before so here goes. I found a company called Black Eight, based somewhere in Asia (I think) who are releasing new rims, as well as cranks, handelbars, hubs, stems and the like in the near future. You can find their products at the link below (only rims on there as f yet): http://www.b8parts.com/products/ So far the only colours they offer are Red, Blue, Silver, Gold and Black. The rims are double walled, metal used isn't specified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-L-B Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 From what I can see, they look very similar to the Try-All/Viz/Whatever rims. Ah, the illusion of choice, when the path is allready chosen for you. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 same factory and same rims as the Viz and other rims :blink: :) just another name to get confused with if you ask me. too many people trying to dabble in the same market, i dont know why people just dont design their own and make them different in some way or shape. then it would be worth buying different rims/bars/stems etc etc. Waynio............................ only my opinion though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 same factory and same rims as the Viz and other rims :blink: :D just another name to get confused with if you ask me. too many people trying to dabble in the same market, i dont know why people just dont design their own and make them different in some way or shape. then it would be worth buying different rims/bars/stems etc etc. Waynio............................ only my opinion though. ← exactly! why doesent anyone make non-cheese koxx width rims :)" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonno Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 make them different in some way or shape. Waynio............................ only my opinion though. ← Hehe might make it difficult when it comes to rims, shape wise of course :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne-king Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 metal used isn't specified. ← haha! :blink: can't think why? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smo™ Posted May 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 Could be anything. 'New' company, 'new' alloy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Drewery Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 Just another cheese rim copy, whats the point in copying parts from other companies as people will probably just buy off the original creator, unless the 'copy' companies parts are cheaper. Nice to them for trying though :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 (edited) Couldnt be arsed to leave what i put.. as long as its got blue... they will sell to someone... Also sam your avatar is so wrong Edited May 3, 2005 by Spacemunkee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsking 55 Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 i saw these on otn a while ago. they're just try-all/viz ones (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Garland Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 At the moment, Echo/Zoo/GU (all dengs companies) seem to be the ones with original ideas. The Control, Hi-HI, the new GU frame, the modifications to the Zoo Pitbull and the Python was a new creation. They done have the same 47mm cheese rims they chose their new laser cut ones which I love. Copying other companies wont really help sales, if they want to sell stuff they need to be original. Even if the idea is roughly the same say a 375mm chainstay on 1090 wb bike with 20mm plus BB, so long as it looks different people will buy it even if its the same as another product with exactly the same geo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 Just another cheese rim copy, whats the point in copying parts from other companies as people will probably just buy off the original creator, unless the 'copy' companies parts are cheaper. Nice to them for trying though (Y) ← But they are not copies. They just buy them off the same company all the other do. Just with their name etched into them instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smo™ Posted May 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 Couldnt be arsed to leave what i put.. as long as its got blue... they will sell to someone... Also sam your avatar is so wrong ← I could change it if you'd like? (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thechink Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 there not the same. they got spokes like the bmx's have. there way off centre like on the outside of the rims. thechink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartridge Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 Well spotted Le Simon. Appears they've come from the same die though, just had the spoke holes drilled in a slightly different place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan@Trials-uk Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTTY___ Posted May 5, 2005 Report Share Posted May 5, 2005 :P ← He's up to something! GET HIM :- Anyway look like koxx etc like other people have stated. Suppose New Company New metal could be an option, but i dought it. All companys starting out copy existing companys that are already popular in my apinyon. Scotty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thechink Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 anyways it doesnt matter. it another place to get a rim if you need one. personally i like the viz (Y) i honestly do. i feel honoured to be called le simon by tart. i am french. and i am now closer to my new brother marc vinco. thechink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecatracingcat Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 (edited) Not just a copy or a re-branded Try all. They have eyelets and a rounder profile. I have no idea if the alloy is harder wearing than others on the market. As for designs I don't think you can go too wrong with a wide double walled eyeleted rim with big holes drilled in it. not too expensive to produce. The only other thing I'd do if I was designing them is make them deeper so the have a biger braking surface and more resistance to flat spotting. Saying that if they are made out of harder alloy... As they say on here... meh.... Oh yeah and the new Black 8 back rim is 42mm wide so it'll fit in my pashley better... cool I'll get one when the time comes.... do you think they'll do lime green ano? Edited May 6, 2005 by bluecatracingcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Tupman Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Typical trials forum ;) everyone is slagging it off already and not one of use has even used them yet (Y) anyway I think it looks all very intresting and I eagerly await their new products :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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