James_Porter Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 its harder to start on a low wall, my first hook was 8 pallets ← dont listen to chai. he does hook to side hop cause he is a strange boy (Y) best way to do it is pedaling. ride up to it, try and get as much height as you can before your pedal hits and jump as soon as you hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 can i do it with my alibongo frame or do i need a longer bike? (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 I would think the ali (Y) bongo would make a nice hooking frame due to the clearence the bb has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIX Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 I found it easier to do on my zebdi than I have found doing it on my control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonPace Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 can i do it with my alibongo frame or do i need a longer bike? (Y) ← you can do it with any trials bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairy elephants Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 can i do it with my alibongo frame or do i need a longer bike? (Y) ← Well I have been learning it recently on my 1020 leeson, so i should hope it is possible on an alibongo :P I have been riding with Andy P, and trying to copy his technique, but it's so far not happening too great. I get the back wheel to bounce off the wall, but no where near high enough to get onto the top of the wall (Y) Ahwell, keep trying i guess. :S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CH!P Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 They're impossible on vertical walls for me (Y) I can do 7 pallets with one leaning almost vertical at the bottom, but that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikenipple Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 (edited) I managed to almost do a 2.5ft front hook up a slightly sloped wall yesterday, but i can only manage to get it to bashguard. (read as: I suck.) What I do is to get the front wheel up i push up and back (read: go to manual) then just chuck my weight forward to unweight the back as much as possible. The two guys I ride with (also on mods) have got hold of it really well, one of them via the method i described above and the other by bunny hopping (he can bunny hop up a 3ft wall and make it look smooooth (Y) Edited April 29, 2005 by Spikenipple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairy elephants Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 I managed to almost do a 2.5ft front hook up a slightly sloped wall yesterday, but i can only manage to get it to bashguard. (read as: I suck.) What I do is to get the front wheel up i push up and back (read: go to manual) then just chuck my weight forward to unweight the back as much as possible. The two guys I ride with (also on mods) have got hold of it really well, one of them via the method i described above and the other by bunny hopping (he can bunny hop up a 3ft wall and make it look smooooth (Y) ← If you want to get the "proper" technique of hitting the back wheel on the face of the wall and having it bounce up, then you will have to be trying it on bigger things than a 2.5 foot wall (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picki Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 I would think the ali (Y) bongo would make a nice hooking frame due to the clearence the bb has. ← possibly not a good idea to have ago on the floor ploughing bb of the monty then (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Staples Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 (edited) What Chai said. EDIT: Also no ones mentioned about making sure both wheels hit at the same time. I added you to MSN, Prawn (Y) Edited April 29, 2005 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Bleech Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 possibly not a good idea to have ago on the floor ploughing bb of the monty then (Y) ← you can do it with any trials bike (Y) its possible to do it on any bike, the monty is fine, just give it ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 What Chai said. EDIT: Also no ones mentioned about making sure both wheels hit at the same time. ← Both wheels hit at exactly the same, and if you hit them at the same time, your forks will flex, you keep your front brake on, your body should be close to your bike and you should try and land with your weight forward, so you are ready for flicking it up. ← (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant_ride Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 yeh chais got a good tech there... thats how i learnt it first of all. When I had my LB 1065 ( hooking machine ) I could do about 5'5" with a big bunny hop and a fast run in... but now on my 1045 i cant do it for crap?? oddness .. it really is about confidence.. I think most people know how to do it and probably could but the thought of going even faster into a high, solid vertical wall isnt too appealing. oli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burrows Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 well said :blink: ← Whats wrong with bunnyhops? What Chai said. EDIT: Also no ones mentioned about making sure both wheels hit at the same time. ← I actually hit my back wheel very slightly before the front, seems to help for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totaltrials Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 Whats wrong with bunnyhops? I actually hit my back wheel very slightly before the front, seems to help for some reason. ← They can't do them, that's all. :blink: Phil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aust Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 (edited) They can't do them, that's all. :blink: Phil. ← no its just that in a competition you dont always have the run up... and the ground isnt always even(uphill, rocky surface etc)... which makes it extremely hard to do a bunny hop Edited April 30, 2005 by aust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boon racoon Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 no its just that in a competition you dont always have the run up... and the ground isnt always even(uphill, rocky surface etc)... which makes it extremely hard to do a bunny hop ← for someone learning to hook from scratch i wouldn't say this is very important bunnyoop(Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Bleech Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 for someone learning to hook from scratch i wouldn't say this is very important bunnyoop(Y) ← tis 'street' hooking ;) :blink: just do it however you feel comfortable ;) mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aust Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 some people cant bunnyhop.... its easier just to peddle into it FULL STOP ! funny how the best riders in the world peddle into it... because its the best and msot effective way ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 benito ros doesent on andy ts video in paris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totaltrials Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 some people cant bunnyhop.... its easier just to peddle into it FULL STOP ! funny how the best riders in the world peddle into it... because its the best and msot effective way ! ← Come on Aust, somebody said it's "cheating" they probably said that because they can't bunny hop, pedaling is a better way in some cases, but it makes no difference in the end, Vincant and the rest on pedal it because they cannot bunnyhop, and pedaling is there style, there is no reason why everybody should copy and pedal thinking it's better. but learn it both ways once you have done it one way then you can choose depending on the terain. Phil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 I said it was cheating, mainly for the fact I cant bunnyhop :"> I do feel if you can bunnyhop its far easier to do it that way than pedaling, I prefer to learn things the hard (would say proper, but there isnt one) way, it might mean I spend longer learning and not get results fast, but it pays off in the end. Of course Benito and co bunnyhop, they are on mods! They bunnyhop so easy they are nearly all the way up before they need to hook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOLO Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 i could hook ALOT better, on the IOLO mk4 than i can on my monty.. i think its a level BB vrs a 72mm high BB. but i do bunny hop as well....lol but i can hook some natural stuff pedaling quite well. but overall i still think that a full big vertical wall is very difficult.! (only done it twice) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burrows Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Lol. Ali and Aust, you said it was cheating, but also said its harder to do it bunnyhop on stock. Surely that means its more skillfull to bunnyhop :S". Phil got it spot on, they're both usefull in different situations so why not learn both :lol:. I prefer bunnyhopping if I can mainly because my hub slipped trying a pedal hook once and it hurt... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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