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Waynio

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I dont enter cus I'd have alot of trouble getting down there :)

Cant get trains on Sunday from Spalding and my dad would take me 1 week and not bother the rest :o

And also, Ive always imagined it as being really competitive and serious which Im not used to :D

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Erm Hey.

1) if they would like to do competition trial through a club?(like tyke trial for Example)

2) Why they cant?

3) if they want to go,but dont want to as they think that people outcast them? trying to pick on them?thinking that your not going to be accepted but wanting to do it kinda thing (this is the edited part,i didnt want it to sound as though fellow riders would do this to any of the new lads!as it is completly different!everyone is friendly and helpful.)

I entered last year but only started comps for the last 3 competitions so that was a bummer. I mainly ride street and I really enjoy it. It's much easier to get to and you dont have to spend a lot of time nor effort getting there. I roll into halfiax, Train to Leeds or where ever. Ride, Eat at a Mc D's or buy a Sandwich or something, then train home and get picked up.

That's how me and my mates ride and we don't ride much natural at all, except Shipley Glen, but the flys piss me off :ermm: hehe.

I've just got a new job @ halfords so that means that I can't ride Sundays' which is really pissing me off, as all decent rides are sundays!! And comps.

Wayne, as i sed to you before when we were talking, if i get any possibility to change my hours so i'm not working sundays. I will ride Tyketrials this year.

I'm not ace at natural, actually i'm not even good at it. I felt out classed in Intermediate which made me a little pissed off at my first competition. Also I wasn't used to the rules! I put my hand down :) Lol.

Transport is a little problem but it's not too bad. I could get my parents to take me if i told them in advance, and my best mate Rick drives so if he did it he could give me a lift.

I was going to come to Brimham rocks, not ride but just come with Waddy and Aran Cook, But couldn't get to where I had to meet them.

Good topic dude. I'll tell my mates :)

Nick (sorry for the essay)

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I really want to enter comps but my only trouble is getting there. I don't feel intimidated by anyone really, i love to ride to the challenge and if i bugger up on something easy then you can just laugh it off. If everyone did everything perfect every time what would be the point in the competition we'd all end up with 0 dabs.

I'm really looking forward to passing my driving test then i can drive to some of the events but still won't be that easy. :)

Moving to Leeds next year for 3 years whilst I'm at Uni so don't know what effect that will have on me been able to get to the rounds but hopefully it will give me people to go with, (Mike, Tim, James and Kev thats directed at you :P :ermm: )

Really want to take up comp riding though!! Hopefully in the near future i will :)

Danny

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ymsa trials do have insurance for the riders, its just not with the acu

the trial on sunday i thought was an ok event, i apreciate all the hard work that goes into it, and im not complaining, i just think i have ridden better sections at brimam before. but hey, it ads veriety, and i probs dent like them because i 5'ed most of them.

transport used to be a bit of a drama, as like many my parents dont realy wanna take me and sit in a cold field all day. but thanks to those that do! and stand observing all day!

i dont think i ever saw anyone get the micky taken out of them for being at there first comp. i think its good to see new faces. new riders are what make the sport grow.

i was there helpin but the moved rocks back in place when we arived at the section , at to whoever it was, what is the point in moveing rocks out of the section? its the same for everyone whether the rocks are there or not!

if you do any other comps in the uk, you should try and do the ymsa ones, they are prety central so you get northern and southern riders traveling to ride , and they are very laid back!

rob

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timmy.........youve got mail!if you need any other forms le me know.

Waynio.......................

if anyone elses needs the necessary forms for the comps PM or e-mail me. your e-mail addy will need to be attached some how everyone.

Waynio........................

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Cough *needs a new long, low, silver frame* Cough

:P Pitbull / KOT MS2 / Echo Control / Koxx Levelboss or XTP

:)

hahaha danny rocks on that px on his! put a rail gap in there and he will easily win a comp :(

the ashton is cool about 1060

Wayne,

Whats the deal with 24"ers at the moment, could i ride inter on it? Would it be out of class? I heard you have to ride out of class in novice/beginner, this true? I don't wanna do that :) But I should enter at least one, just to say i have done :ermm:

Mike

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dent see anyone rippin into wez,

i ride biu and uci comps, i dont like making technical dabs, unless its at a national or somthing when i could gain from it. so am i a willy or a prat?

its a club trial, fun to ride, nice to win but its not the end of the world. my opinion is if every large rock i pull up next to i dab up. then how is that improoving my riding? if i 5 it then fine. one time i will clean it and the guy who's still dabbing is still getting 1's. its gotta make you better eventually.

dont think its rite to say all uci riders have an atitude. it individual people that have atitude's nothing to do with how they ride.

rob

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Mike i dont think riding 24" would be a problem the categories are mixed now i will bring it up at the next tyke trial AGM meeting and sort it out for you. it would only really really matter if it was a british round as its tykes and fun and a great gathering of different riders i wouldnt see it a problem for you.

surely there is some "younger" members on the forum? what is their opinion on the "Start" of this topic? as its the younger lads we need to get into it more as when lads (usually) get to the 17-20odd mark they tend to find booze girls and rock n roll!(you can have rock n roll ne way it just fit in with the words :) :S )

so i think this is why some of the lads loose interest when there older, younger lads i was just curious in what they would like to do? and what they can do through the competition scene?

Waynio......................................

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I’d like to point out some facts about UCI trials.

There are no officially authorised UCI trials held in the U.K. at the moment. If you wish to enter a UCI comp you have to go to Europe, that’s expensive, so I expect that those that go try to get the best result they can. If you make the effort to go, get those dabs in.

The UCI rules encourage you to take deliberate dabs, BIU does not. It’s simple to understand if you look at how UCI works. If you attempt a side hop in UCI and don’t quite make it to two wheels and part of your bike touches the section you lose marks, 1 mark for each scrape, if you have to put your foot down after the bike has touched you lose another mark. BUT if you get your foot in first, bike or pedal scraping does not count while your foot is on the floor, UCI riders take deliberate dabs to avoid the extra marks they may get by going to pedal or bash, simple as that.

I like to ride to two wheels if I can, it’s quicker. The benefit of BIU rules is it lets you really test your self, you can try to go to two wheels but if you don’t quite make it and your pedal touches its not a disaster as you don’ lose a mark and there’s always next lap to try again.

Take it from me if you want to win, or do well in either BIU or UCI World comps practice taking deliberate dabs, you will need them.

Ben.

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i totally agree ben,

tha part about dabbing is safer, so i always thought it would be the other way around i didnt quite understand UCI fully until that post but i always thought people were always more risky in UCI to getting cleans instead of using what we can call a very "Tactical Dab" as it saves you points in UCI? instead of loosing them.

now i understand.

Waynio.................................

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so in thoery there is no need for the "Dabbing is for G**S" as in theory dabbing is used in UCI to help prevent more than 1 dab at a time..............(i think) :S

There's no need for it anyway though :) How other people choose to ride is up to them, really, and seeing as trials is a small community anyway, trying to alienate each other anyway is the worst...

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its just that some people dont ride to win..... so whats the point in dabbing ??? you might aswell just have a bash at the obstacle...

dont really see the point in practising dabbing personally.. practise getting up it on your bike.. thought that was the point of trials personally

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It's trying to get through a section collecting the minimum amount of points, so I guess from Ben's point of view if he makes a boob and falls back down/hits pedal or bash, then he's lost more points than necessary.

Anyway, yeah, I agree - if you're not *really* in contention for winning or whatever, you might as well give any obstacle a go really. Fair enough, if you go for, say, a sidehop and have to abort it just before you launch for whatever reason and you dab, you might as well 'use' the dab and put the bike at the top of the obstacle, if possible...

But either way, up to the rider's discretion I guess.

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erm i'm one of the "younger riders" :( (13)

i already go to ymsa :blink: . it's pretty cool and very laid back and friendly. it's very much just like a natty session just a little competitive and thats what makes it such a fun event. and it's not that costly really either. and steve rowland is also very helpful in his e-mails when i'm asking questions. also lots of my mates go so it's a good laugh. and you get to meet other riders.

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i totally agree ben,

tha part about dabbing is safer, so i always thought it would be the other way around i didnt quite understand UCI fully until that post but i always thought people were always more risky in UCI to getting cleans instead of using what we can call a very "Tactical Dab" as it saves you points in UCI? instead of loosing them.

now i understand.

Waynio.................................

so in thoery there is no need for the "Dabbing is for G**S" as in theory dabbing is used in UCI to help prevent more than 1 dab at a time..............(i think) :)

Of corse that you totally agree with ben, i went to that trial to walk around and have a look because i am just coming into comps however i have sort of learnt who every one is just from vids but waynio dont you ride for koxx uk so naturally you would team up and support ben.... (Y)

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I am finally biting the bullet and going to my first trial next weekend. Should be a good laugh, and i might even suprise myself and not come last.

I haven't been to one before as i hadnt really ridden natural and there arent any trials down south that i fancied going to (the thought of muddy banks doesnt really appeal), and i dont have a car up at uni so i have to ponse lifts.

Anyway i'm really looking forward to it, if you see me at the YMSA comp don't be shy, come and say hello, ill be on Ad's old t-rex prototype with the funkier than normal flames (Y)

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I'd love to try a competition, joining a club would be ace. I love to ride with new people, it's key for improvement. However, I just feel that I'm not good enough, so I'm not full of confidence, I'd get on the course and 5 almost instantly, I just know it.

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It's all good. Until you start doing some of the Expert sections or Elite, there's nothing scary in the sections at all, it's just technical. You've got nothing to worry about :huh: Just go for it :P If you don't want to do something, just accept the 5, but you can at least give it a go!

Mark

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Yeah I guess you're right, but I absolutely despise natural trials. At least for now anyway. All the competition riders have the basics absolutely dialled, perfect balance, switches, wheelswaps etc. Whereas I'm more of a street rider, I've moved on to trying big backwheels/sidehops/gaps etc. Even if I pulled a 50+ inch backwheel I'd think I was good, but in reality I'm just as crap as I'd always been because I don't have the basics needed to be able to ride even the smallest of natural sections, be it rocks or whatever.

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Was the same for me :huh: First comp was piece o' piss, 'cos it was supposed to be wet so the sections were layed out so they were less tech and more flowy, which was useful for me. Next comp was way more tech, and you just learn stuff there and then pretty quickly. I've only got 4 rocks here to practise on, so it's not like I've got a huge training area or anything, but you just pick up the skills you need riding around, basically.

The only thing that pisses me off with comps is a load of the pure compy riders who've just got no style or decent technique at all. They just don't roll anything; jus doing the "lock the brakes and hop the bike" approach at everything. Just kinda irks me for some reason.

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1. I really wont to do them for the Experiance and to meet new people and riders of different abilities.

2. I have trouble traveling as my dads lazy, although hes asking about me joining.

3. I dont know how to send of for all those weird forms you have you have to have.

Scotty

I really wont to come, can people help me out?

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i've been thinking about this alot and i think the biggest problem facing prospective new comp riders is the cost. for example i live a good 2-3hours from the nearest non freeridetrials comps and to ride them i need an acu license, club membership and the entry fee, that ontop of travelling costs etc would make for an extremely expensive first weekend and i don't even know if i'd enjoy it. i totted it up and think that my girlfriend and i could have a nice weekend away for the same cost as me entring one tykes comp...

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