Waynio Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 (edited) Could people please post in this thread the follwing: 1) if they would like to do competition trial through a club?(like tyke trial for Example) 2) Why they cant? 3) if they want to go,but dont want to as they think that people outcast them? trying to pick on them?thinking that your not going to be accepted but wanting to do it kinda thing (this is the edited part,i didnt want it to sound as though fellow riders would do this to any of the new lads!as it is completly different!everyone is friendly and helpful.) I think in my opinion the majority of people dont turn up to competitions is due to number 3? i think people would enjoy competitions if they were more relaxed about things. i would like to see new faces at more and more events and i myself will be the 1st to admit i would love to travel to some of the YMSA events too. its just with work and the commitment i have with tyke trial i am finding it hard at the moment but as things keep moving on and getting better, i was just wanting to get some feedback from other members of the forum? as well as myself going round in any time that i have to myself either when riding or even calling people to come out riding im trying to get more and more member to come to the events. all your help is grateful boys and girls, ladies and gentlemen. i know quite alot of people will struggle with the transport side of things? but are people still interested in this forum in seeing their Idol's? so for example if chris Akrigg and martin hawyes wer riding tyke trial events would it pull more and more people in? i myself would think it would as the mums and dads usually like to get talking to the pro elite riders as well as the kids watching and talking to them too?i just want to get some feedback to see why and how we can make getting to and making people more interested in competition trials? Also please take into account that in July (i think,well pretty sure) there is a world round up@ addingham moorside? this is also one of the venues kids can practis on and also compete on through the tyke trial competition? Also on sunday (at the last tyke trial event) we had a fantastic appearance from a brother of a koxx world team rider which was great to see and i must say thank you to Fred savage for bringing Wesley Bealay (sp) along to the competition. Yes a bit of a netter but please people put your replys into this thread. Regards Waynio........................ i think people must take into line too you get to meet some of the up and coming stars of the trials world at events too, Ben Savage Ben Slinger, James Hyland all those 3 are UK and World champions!!!!!! other up and coming stars james little brother!!!Ali C who rode the bike show?and is brit champ,there are so many more to name yet i just cant get them all down................ Edited April 12, 2005 by Waynio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Could people please post in this thread the follwing: 1) if they would like to do competition trial through a club?(like tyke trial for Example) 2) Why they cant? 3) if they want to go,but dont want to as they think that people outcast them? trying to pick on them?thinking that your not going to be accepted but wanting to do it kinda thing (this is the edited part,i didnt want it to sound as though fellow riders would do this to any of the new lads!as it is completly different!everyone is friendly and helpful.) ← 1) Yeah, I like doing them, but only through the YMSA almost purely down to the fact that to do a YMSA comp it costs me the entry fee because they don't have all the BIU/ACU licenses and so on required for you to participate. For me, that means a lot, because I don't know how many trials I can commit to a year, so it doesn't make sense for me to spend a lot of money on ACU or BIU membership which I'm only going to make use of once or twice. Also, the YMSA comps are solely held on rocks, which is another selling point for me. Coupled to that the ultra friendly atmosphere from the YMSA admin and from every other rider at the comps (apart from the dickheads), it's great. 2) Generally, I can't get to the ones I don't go to because of a lack of transport. I really want to go to this first YMSA round, seeing as a lot of people from here are going who I'd like to meet, but I've got no way of getting up there, which sucks. This is the same reason for most of the comps I go to, too. 3) I didn't think that at all, to be honest with you. I was nervous before my first ever trial, just because I didn't know what to expect, but I didn't feel like I'd be an outcast or anything. I knew a few people who were going (such as Chris R from Section7.co.uk), so it made it a bit easier 'cos there were a few friendly faces there. For every trial after that, I've seen more people I know from here and from previous comps, so it's pretty cool. I'm guessing though that the 2 over-riding factors as to whether people go to comps or not is if they actually want to do them as they are, or if they can get there (either because of transport reasons or because of the date). The meeting the "top" riders is pretty good just from watching them ride, really. Like when Gilles Coust went to the YMSA round last year (or the year before?), it was pretty fly just 'cos it was good to see someone who was that good riding there. But yeah, just seeing all the mix of riders is pretty interesting; you learn a hell of a lot really quickly (N) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Tupman Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Could people please post in this thread the follwing: 1) if they would like to do competition trial through a club?(like tyke trial for Example) 2) Why they cant? 3) if they want to go,but dont want to as they think that people outcast them? trying to pick on them?thinking that your not going to be accepted but wanting to do it kinda thing (this is the edited part,i didnt want it to sound as though fellow riders would do this to any of the new lads!as it is completly different!everyone is friendly and helpful.) ← 1) Yes I do ride trials, through WEMC (West of England Motor Club (Y) ) Mainly because I started them and there all very close to me. I'll also be riding the complete British Championship and hopefully a few Hampshire and North Wales trials. 2) Transport used to be a big issue but now I have a car it's not so bad but I certainly know what it feel like to not be able to get to a comp due to distance or lack of transport. 3) I think this only really applys to British championship trials as I feel every gets way to serious and people stop talking to each other but in a normal club trial you don't find this because people are having more of a laugh. I think people don't ride trials mainly for the transport reason, when ever you go to a trial there are stacks of people who drove themselves and a few mates so if you can't get a lift your screwed. good topic (N) matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisa Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 (edited) 1) I would love to do a competition but I have never been to one, entered one or even heard about one. I live in Northern Ireland and have thought many times to get some sort of competitions going. It all boils down to the fact that we don't have enough people. If we organised some massive comp with big prizes would any of you's guy come over? I don't come to England as I simply wouldn't know how to go about travelling on them roads of yours. See over here we have very little motorway. And to be honest its more like a duel carridgeway. I would get lost or die. Bikedock being over here support demo's but I don't think they stand to benefit from organizing a competition so won't bother. We have a good bit of natural that would probably be on par with some of the stuff you guys have. Waynio, maybe you could organize with the help of us guys a trial either over here (Northern Ireland) or Somewhere like Stranrar, Scotland (can get there in an hour from Belfast) I would be willing to travel to Stranrar for example as its relatively low cost and not very inconvenient. I'm not worried about being laughed at, picked on. I reckon if this forum is anything to go by I'd like to meet 90% of you guys so would enjoy the fact there would be other like minded people there. Edited April 12, 2005 by Brisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted April 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 (edited) yo mark just going back to your post. BIU is only for British rounds and world rounds that is the only reason you would need to hold this license. IF you had an accident at a YMSA round surely there is some kind of Compensation available? the reason the ACU comes into it is purely to cover you in any instance of injury and if something stopped you working for say 3-4months i think this is where the ACU comes into it? i might need cleanbikes to put something in this one as barbera will know the most about the ACU but £10 a year for acu for just in case kinda thing is deffintaly worth it. if yo broke your leg at a competition you have injury pay? i think it works like this. but as i say i could do with barbera confirming it. regards waynio................ please people keep the post's coming. Edited April 12, 2005 by Waynio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Yeah i would like to ride one but there are a few things that put me off . . . . 1) Transport - expensive and difficult .. .. 2) I got abit put off when i went to watch the devon national round a year ago - for a couple of reasons - everyone was taking it soooo seriously (loads of bike throwing and competitive dads) and the actual course was a little dissapointing - considering it was a national round..... but the main problem is the transport . . . Plus my bike aint really set up for it - I hear you need brakes that work (N) .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Yeah i would like to ride one but there are a few things that put me off . . . . 1) Transport - expensive and difficult .. .. 2) I got abit put off when i went to watch the devon national round a year ago - for a couple of reasons - everyone was taking it soooo seriously (loads of bike throwing and competitive dads) and the actual course was a little dissapointing - considering it was a national round..... but the main problem is the transport . . . Plus my bike aint really set up for it - I hear you need brakes that work (N) .... ← Re: #2 I've only ever seen that sorta thing happen about twice at the YMSA comps, and that was just The Butlers®. If it's not a national, I don't think the majority are going to care as much. I know that even the Elite riders at the YMSA comps were all laughing and joking as they were riding sections, so it's really chilled (Y) Plus, the sections are always on nice rocks, and they're almost always well laid out. Top banana :) EDIT: Wayne - I don't know about the compensation thing from YMSA, just 'cos I'd never really thought about it; I just thought that if I fell off and, say, broke my leg, it would've been my fault and I wouldn't have even considered compensation because it would've been down to me, but also I wouldn't want to potentially financially cripple the organisation that had been putting the comp on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotchDave Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 1) Hell yeh 2) There aren't any comps for 100 mile minimum. 3) Not bothered, if people are dickheads its their problem, also most people I know who ride are alright. (N) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 2) There aren't any comps for 100 mile minimum. ← The ones I go to are typically around 130+ miles away, which leads to sucky-sucky drives home afterwards when I'm tired... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotchDave Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Well there aren't any comps in scotland so I guess I underestimated. (N)" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairy elephants Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 (edited) The ones I go to are typically around 130+ miles away, which leads to sucky-sucky drives home afterwards when I'm tired... ← If you feel tired whilst driving stop at a service station for a coffee and take a short nap before continuing. :)" :P 1)I ride in the hampshire comp's but i would like to ride some of the essex rounds aswell, and i was concidering trying out some national's now that i'm driving. 2)My parents have never been very supportive of me riding trials, so up untill i passed my driving test i had to blag lifts off of friends (cheers harsh rider (N) ) 3)I have never really found that this is a problem, everybody helps eachother get through the sections, and shouts out helpful tips, or words of encouragement (Y) Then they will often laugh when you fall in a ditch :P Edited April 12, 2005 by fairy elephants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 (Y)" :P ← I don't drive there though :) Hence the transport problem (N) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 I don't drive there though (N) ← So don't moan about the journey (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Nah, I was just meaning everyone's a little cranky. But yeah, if I could afford to have lessons, buy a car, tax and insure it, then afford the petrol costs, I'd be there (N) My Mum came last time even though she didn't take me though, so I think she enjoys going to them anyway, so it's not so bad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endofreak Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 1) Would love to 2) I live a wee bit too far away. I may have to get my arse into gear and get over to a comp someday for a laugh. Would be a good excuse to meet some new people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted April 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 at tykes we have never had this problem before as in rule number three untill i would say sundays competition and onza boy mark you knock the nail on the head mate!i will again say you are a top bloke. some people do my tits in especially when there all F***** n blinding. and the national last year at devon was my 1st ever and i didnt even know what/notice that people were being competative???? might just have been me being nervous about it being my 1st brit round though. i didnt think at any of the others there was any competative probs? but hey thats what this topic is all about i just want to know why people may or may not be able to make it to a competition. trnasport is a big thing, if i had a bus i would take everyone with me! would make it more fun and chilling and i think everyone would get on apart from K**BH**DS. cheers for all the feedback boys and girls ladies and gents. Waynio.................... please keep them coming....................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleanbikes Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Wayne asked about insurance / ACU Your £10 a year ACU licence fee, plus what the club pays them 'per rider per event' out of your entry fee, covers the organisers if a rider were to make a claim against them for negligence. So, for example, if you had an accident which resulted in serious injury, and you believed that it was the organiser's fault, perhaps because of something in the section, then you could claim for, say, the time you had to take off work, or for a personal tutor because you had to miss important schooling, or in the worst possible scenario your family could claim if you were killed. I think I'm right in saying the cover is for up to £30 million? (Couldn't swear on that, would need to check.) Well worth it in my opinion! (N) If trials were run through British Cycling insurance rather than through ACU you'd be looking at between £30 to £60 each per year. (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted April 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 i knew it was something like that barbera couldnt remember exactly how it was..... so personally for £10.00 it covers you completly in case of injury and due to time off work, iv got some kind of policy with my bank that if i get whip lash in a car accident i can claim alot more benefits as i have complete 100% full health yet if i was to claim only £60.00 per week on statutory sick pay it may not be enough for me to live on so i think each week i would receive £350.00 instead of just £60.00 (statutory sick pay) so its something that obviosly the bank dont want you and hope you dont use, as it would be something that could affect your life in theory like disability etc etc. but its there JUST in case kinda thing. it costs me something like £10.00 PER month........... but is a good example just like the ACU stuff. Waynio........................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrEvil270183 Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 i have my ACU form but got confused when it said i cant apply too a club with it, but cant get ACU with club membership (N) plus couldnt find addresses to send them too, i didnt look hard though so probably somewhere ont forum. i really want to try a comp this year though, even if its just for the experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted April 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 yo tim, put Tyke trial and send your ACU and a Tyke trial form off and you'll be sorted mate. if you want the form il upload it to the forum? or even into theis thread so people can print it off? Waynio...................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrEvil270183 Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 i see, dont suppose you can upload tyke membership form and address to send em too? will be much appreciated (N) Cheers, Wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Drewery Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 I currently go to local comps, but have never attended a competition with one of the major clubs like YMSA or BIU etc. However, in the near future i may if i can get transport sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Lite_Rider Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 1.I have actually joined tyke trials but very rarely go. 2. The main reason behind it is transport, i dont have my own car and my parents wont take me. since i am really the own rider near here i also cant catch a lift off people, also usally these places arent near main towns etc so a train is also pritty useless. Hopefully when i learn to drive in 2months (already have car sorted) i will deffo start coming to more. 3. Not really bothered about this, just that i probally wont know anyone there so that may be abit akward at first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burrows Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 I would love to compete, but like most people on here until I can drive I have no way to get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunkey_monkey_boy Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 what freeridetrials club are trying to do is encourage more people into events by making them easier to get to (all close to good rail connections) and fun so that people aren't intimidated to come along. unfortunately the last event wasn't the success it could have been and i think that if people realised what the club are actually about (fun enjoyable comps+rides for all) then the events would be packed out. the next comp we do will be well organised and FUN so if anyone is considering doing a comp but is scared off the others come along to ours and you'll have a great laugh (N) waynio - i think comunication between the northern trials clubs would benefit us all. maybe we should get club contacts and then all work together getting new riders into comps. tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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