PythonRider Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Evein' all, just wondering what people run as a rear vee on the back. What arms, what lever, pads, cables and how does it compare to a maggie? Iv'e had enough of my maggie being a b*sterd, and just want a pretty hastle free rear brake. So yea, what you all run? Cheers in advance Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoojames Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 I know Sharn runs rear vee, I think he had Speed dial 7 arms with spanish fly pads on XTR lever and got a cheapy £2 brake cable from his lbs like once a month or something to keep it feeling nice, look at what he can do on his bike, thats without grinds or tar I believe, talk to him though! But surely it can't beet a maggy with bolt mounts and a bigass booster such as the new echo ones? James :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharn Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 (edited) Yeah i run a V, have done for years now :unsure: For a long time i had SD7 ams, xtr levers and spanish fly pads, in the dry it never slipped really in years (sometimes not as bitey in the dust) Then i got ultimate arms, which did improve power n bite, but motly just gave a much more positive feel as theyre very smooth and have no play at the bolts, also the arms are very stiff. I had the same pair of spanish flys for ages ( i recomend these on anodised rims, cd, black sidewalls etc) Theyre soo grippy if set up correctly. I trust my brake 100% and its only ever slipped a hand full of times in years, (normally due to dust or bit of wet, nothin a good bit of spit on your finger doesnt cure :(" ) If your dont have the money for an ultimate, SD7 arms are fine (Y) Cheap cabling lubd up with wd40 is all ive ever run. and xt or xtr levers feel nicest imo (avid levers feel horrid and they get loads of play after a while) Sharn Edited April 10, 2005 by sharn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 (edited) After many years with maggies, I switched to Vees last year, because I was tired of all the problems I had with my brakes. I'm running: Ritchey Pro Logic arms, developed lots of play :unsure: XTR Levers, light and very comfortable White Heatsink pads (Y) Megamo booster Nokon housing with some cheap cable and a harsh ground rim Nokon housing is much better than standard housing. It's lighter and makes the brake feel much stiffer. It's also pretty much sealed and comes in a wide range of colours :( My brake is at least on a par with a Magura and it can't leak :P Edited April 10, 2005 by Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Limbo (Trials Chimp) Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 XT Levers Deore brakes Plaz pads I've been running the above set up for ages without any real problems. I've only had to adjust it recently because the pads are nearly worn out. Obviously the more you spend the better the performance will be but you can get a decent vee set up for under £40 easily. Mine rarely slips unless its wet (rain and plaz pads dont mix) its only failing to lock now because the pads are so worn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PythonRider Posted April 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Cheers all, One last thing, don't suppose any of you know what the difference between This and http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=1832' target='_blank'> is do you, despite the one being quite a bit cheaper...... Ta all Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly C Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Evein' all, just wondering what people run as a rear vee on the back. What arms, what lever, pads, cables and how does it compare to a maggie? Iv'e had enough of my maggie being a b*sterd, and just want a pretty hastle free rear brake. So yea, what you all run? Cheers in advance Tom ← If you thinking of putting a v-brake on your mod then stop thinking about it now (Y) The bigest problems being the tyre is huge and its hard to get the cable clear of the tread, also the wheel setp being horizontal theres so many variations that it makes it ultra hard to get them set up and stay working and getting the tyre clear etc. I used to swear by Vees... and now I dont, there nice an' all but there just not a magura Im afraid. Stick to whats best, especially on mods :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Drewery Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 My mate just got xtr arms and standard black xtr pads with noodle for 24.99 on offer form chain reaction cycles (top deal). He runs an avid single digit 3 lever and a fibrax cable. He also runs a cheapo booster and his setup works quite well, a little spongey but needs bedding in (got it two days ago) and hes upgrading to an xtr lever too when he has the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Limbo (Trials Chimp) Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 If you thinking of putting a v-brake on your mod then stop thinking about it now :( The bigest problems being the tyre is huge and its hard to get the cable clear of the tread, also the wheel setp being horizontal theres so many variations that it makes it ultra hard to get them set up and stay working and getting the tyre clear etc. I used to swear by Vees... and now I dont, there nice an' all but there just not a magura Im afraid. Stick to whats best, especially on mods :unsure: ← One of the best things about a vee is that its not a Magura :P Phythonrider I wouldnt recomend trying to bodge a vee onto your mods 4-bolt mounts (If thats what you're doing) its a bitch to do well and no one makes any proper good adapters (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich4130 Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Rear V's rule, Ive got: Avid SD7 Lever (wouldnt reccomend) Avid Cable (black um dunno name) Odyssey Slics are great too. Avid Ti arms, just SD7's really, I got 2 pairs for £30 new, and there a nicer colour heh. Plaz CRV's XTR Booster (sometimes, doesnt make much diff) Anyway, it rules, any dust/water and its shite, but i usually carry a bit of tissue with fairy liquid on, with a bit of drink it gets and dust and shite off, works a dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly C Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 One of the best things about a vee is that its not a Magura :P Phythonrider I wouldnt recomend trying to bodge a vee onto your mods 4-bolt mounts (If thats what you're doing) its a bitch to do well and no one makes any proper good adapters :( ← V-Brakes are all fine and dandy on stock bikes but for a mod bike there not really an option, I used to run them for ages but ran into so many problems that it wasn't worth trying. Vee's are fine on stock (Y) But not reccomended on mods :unsure: Olly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Nichols Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 (edited) I run an avid SD7 with plazmatic pads on smooth rim and with an XTR lever. Heres a wee run down... Avid brakes are the dogs, don't go for XTR as there's too much to go wrong with all the parralell swing etc (awesome for xc, not so good for trials due to different strains) Levers... i use XTR because i love the feel, really XTR levers and something like the SD7 levers are both equally as good... XTR is rounder though and i like that - feels more like a Magura lever. Pads... I'm currently using plazmatics on a smooth rim however they are absolutely bollocks in the wet so maybe try some heatsinks or something. If you have a grind plazmatics will only last about 1hour before your running metal on metal :unsure: Hope this helps... One last thing, if you have cash to splash you'll be wanting... Avid Ultimate XTR Lever Plazmatics or Heatsinks or summit Odysey Linear Slik Cable teflon inner cable XTR carbon booster - I have 3 (Y) P.S. Don't buy the titanium avids - titanium flexes - nuff said P.S.S. Edited April 10, 2005 by nichols_sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PythonRider Posted April 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 One of the best things about a vee is that its not a Magura :( Phythonrider I wouldnt recomend trying to bodge a vee onto your mods 4-bolt mounts (If thats what you're doing) its a bitch to do well and no one makes any proper good adapters :unsure: ← I've been told that Mr. Edd Potts makes some good convertors? And olli, I've had endless problems with my maggie, and it's realy getting on my tits now. Im sure I'll find a way to make it work, cheers for the concern though (Y) Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Nichols Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 The only problem with adapters though Tom is that unless they clamp around the frame or something (instead of simply bolting into the existing maggy mount) you will find they flex like a b*****d. This is a wee problem :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoojames Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Whilest we are on the topic anybody get a spare rear XTR/XT lever I could buy? I really don't want to pay £30 for a bloomin vee lever that I'm putting on a bike to ride to school (i still want some bite though as I will do the odd bit of trials to impress :() Cheers lads (Y) James :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PythonRider Posted April 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 The only problem with adapters though Tom is that unless they clamp around the frame or something (instead of simply bolting into the existing maggy mount) you will find they flex like a b*****d. This is a wee problem :unsure: ← I know, was thinking about that, ive got convertors on the front and they dont seem to bad at all. Grr i dunno.... Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SebJT Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Hey Tom, Cant remember if you had a go on my bike or not but my rear brake is awesome. Avid Ultimate arms XTR lever XTR hosing Jasons custom v adapters Adamant Booster Heatsink pads This brake feels ultra smooth and more solid than most maggies ive tried, no flex at all to get the brake locked. Also works very very well easily as good as a magura. I have tired all kinds of magura set ups, pads levers etc and my brake beats them all in my opinion. Other than performance another huge plus side is adjustability and low mantainance. Ive had this set up for about a year, and rarly mess around with it the all i do is adjust the barrel adjuster now and then to get the lever right. Other than that i just leave it and its been great. If you can get some good adapters then using a v on a 4 bolt frame is fine, like i said, my brake feels stiffer than most maggies. Seb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PythonRider Posted April 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Yea Seb I did go on your Koxx, oh my god that brake was immense! Found avid ultimate arms on evay for like £35-40 brand new. Think i may get them and an XTR Lever. Mmmm Cheers for all of your help all, much apprechated. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatmike Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 I've been told that Mr. Edd Potts makes some good convertors? ← Found avid ultimate arms on evay for like £35-40 brand new. ← *Cough* you're welcome. Aye, Tom. I still don't know why you have so many problems with maguras, they just really don't like you! A decent booster, decent pads (such as heatsinks, with your choice of 50mm maggie pads), and decent converters will do you grand. Good cables are a must too. (Like my XTR you can have (Y)) You've not got much to loose by trying it anyway. :unsure: Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janson Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 SebJT: Are the adapters still working well? Vee brakes > Maguras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PythonRider Posted April 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 *Cough* you're welcome. Aye, Tom. I still don't know why you have so many problems with maguras, they just really don't like you! A decent booster, decent pads (such as heatsinks, with your choice of 50mm maggie pads), and decent converters will do you grand. Good cables are a must too. (Like my XTR you can have :() You've not got much to loose by trying it anyway. :unsure: Mike. ← Yea, Cheers mikey :P :P Hmm....gonna have to run a grind though...... Unless i get a new rim, which it might be time for. Ronnie=Poo (Y)" Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharn Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Personally i think maguras are shit. :P If you set a v brake up correctly i think theyre much nicer. Maybe not better for absolute lock, but for actual hold. Ive seen too many 'whooshy' maguras to ever go back. They all lock beautifully, but never hold on edges.. if you get me? :unsure: Only magura i ever liked was Bonos , which was clean CRM pads on a clean CD D521 (Y) Works amazing Also, i prefer the idea of the pad being 'pulled' into the rim when i pull the lever, rather than 'pushed' in like with maguras. Just my opinion :( I have some pretty good V converters that i ran on my pure. edd potts made them for me. The design wasnt perfect, only due to the clearance of the arms wasnt great, it was soon sorted with a bit of a file :P I ran them on the pure no problem at all.. you can buy them if you want? I dont need them anymore Add me to MSN moo_star@hotmail.com Sharn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CH!P Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 I don't know what people have against Magura's?! They're simple to set-up and work beasty when they are set-up right. I've got Coust pads on med grind Ronnie and no tar at all and everyone who goes on my bike just says it's stupidly powerfull! Set it up properly and forget Vee's on a mod! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PythonRider Posted April 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 I don't know what people have against Magura's?! They're simple to set-up and work beasty when they are set-up right. I've got Coust pads on med grind Ronnie and no tar at all and everyone who goes on my bike just says it's stupidly powerfull! Set it up properly and forget Vee's on a mod! ← Ooo there not. Naa, it's gonna be done, don't worry. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Bleech Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 (edited) I use vees too, have done forever! I run... cane creek dc2 calipers (no noodles, which are the crappest thing about vees) odyessy brake line cable avid sd7 lever (XT are sweet too) shimano xtr booster heatsink translucent vee pads on sun ryhno lite xl this set up it awesome, the pads and great (see pad review topic) and has a solid feel and locks great. A lot if life magura users have been very impressed by it. I really like the the fact that if anything goes wrong (rarely does), even the shittest bike shop will have cable, lever or something to get me going again :unsure: mike Edited April 10, 2005 by leedstrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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