rich4130 Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 I'm not 100% sure I should be posting this, but delete etc if its a bit dodgy.......... :D Just turned on the telly, Only fools and horses is on, I know like every episode off by heart, and I was watching this one, and its been cut. I watched the original video of it, and where it was cut, it goes like this, 'Paki shop won't let us have nothing on tic' and then again, Rodney goes to Del, "You wont give me no credit" and then Uncle Albert says "nor will that paki". Does anybody actually find this offensive? little things like this annoys me, I appreciate I'm not asian, but It wouldn't bother me if I was, e.g. if instead it was 'ginge' etc, it wouldn't bother me, its going mad. In the future will 'fatty' um and any other kinda remark on somebodys appearence etc that be a criminal offence? I have a feeling im gonna get slated for this, but where will it end. Rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCircus Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 In the future will 'fatty' um and any other kinda remark on somebodys appearence etc that be a criminal offence? No, but it still isn't very nice. Lets say you had some facial deformity, and I started calling you "horrific facial deformity boy", it wouldn't put you in the best of moods. I think people dont want to be judged by what colour they are, or what country they are from, they want to be treated the same as everybody else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich4130 Posted April 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 hmm, what I put has come out rather wrong, makes me sound awful. Yea, ok Jon, your right as always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Yeah I hate this country well hate it for what its becoming its a shame I wont be here next year when theres a riot pinky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sameer Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 No, but it still isn't very nice. Lets say you had some facial deformity, and I started calling you "horrific facial deformity boy", it wouldn't put you in the best of moods. I think people dont want to be judged by what colour they are, or what country they are from, they want to be treated the same as everybody else. ← Yeah that's true for something like body weight, which all peoples can variate in. But skin colour and nationality can't really be put into that same context. You're suggesting skin colour and/or nationality are things to be ashamed of, and therefore unpleasant to be branded as a part of - which isn't true. Being black/brown/pink/green isn't a 'deformity', and so it shouldn't upset you if you were referred to as someone of that kind. Having it taken out is pretty stupid, really. Especially if there are people who realise it's been taken out. I think I said in an older post about racism or something, people really ought not be as insecure as they bloody are. "Paki" is just an abbreviated form of "Pakistani", just as "Brit" is for "British" or "Briton". In gatherings of like-coloured people, they always brag about their pride in being black/brown/white/yellow, but then it suddenly becomes a sin for someone to recognise them as that. Don't really get it myself, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 But applying the word "paki" to anyone who is asian is a bit stupid really, and some people would take offence. They probably took it out to try and hide the writers' ignorance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Limbo (Trials Chimp) Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 It wouldn't have offended me and I doubt it would have offended that many people really. Everyone is so scared of offending other peope these days, its stupid. Where I work we're not allowed to send out company xmas cards that have santa on, raindeers on, christmas tree's, there only allowed to say 'seasons greetings' because it might offend some ethnic minorities :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philking Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 But skin colour and nationality can't really be put into that same context. You're suggesting skin colour and/or nationality are things to be ashamed of, and therefore unpleasant to be branded as a part of - which isn't true. Being black/brown/pink/green isn't a 'deformity', and so it shouldn't upset you if you were referred to as someone of that kind. ← I totally agree. I am very aware of the politically correct nonesence going around at the moment because of my mum being a nurse (and has recently had to write articles for magazines etc), she has to refer to old people as, "older persons", so not to offend them. And she cannot say, he's the black man, she would have to say, he is the person of different ethnic origin. i think its just gone too far, i'm sorry, but it isn't racist to say, thats the chinese boy etc... because if anyone is offended by their own nationality, and what they are then they nare the ones who are out of hand. i mean, if i was in a school full of black and asian people and they were trying to describe me, i would not expect them to say, "oh he has brown short hair, brown eyes, is about 5'7"," etc, i would just expect them to say, he is the white bloke. Because i am not ashamed of being white, i am proud, and therefore not offended when people use it as a means of description. I think that black and asian people would feel the same, i mean i know that black people do refer to one another as niggers (I AM NOT BEING RACIST), i hear it all the time at school between black people, and none of them are offended by it, because it is not said in a malicious way, or intended to cause offence. Anyway back to the point, i do very much agree that it should not have been censored - i think in this modern socioty it is the "do-gooders" who are so worried about the whole p.c. thing that they don't take a step back and realise how stupid it is. I mean half the people who say, "oh thats so offensive" etc. aren't black or asian or whatever so they wouldn't know. And the actual people who should in theory be offended (if the do-gooders are correct) don't feel offended, or upset by it. Perspective people, Just get real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardman Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Ithink theres too much going on in the world these days to warrent all this political correctness. Surely there ar emore important issues nationally and internationally that need more attention than telling people what they cant stay or shouldnt say. Ipity the people that take such comments to so seriously, there is a difference between blantant racism, discrimination and this so called political correctness. People need to learn to take things with a picnh of slt and not get on their high horses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 People need to learn to take things with a pinch of salt and not get on their high horses. ← agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardman Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 agreed ← Why thankyou its probably the only descent thing Ive typed on here. I am apparently visually impaired not four eyes any more oh well liked four eyes better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Why thankyou its probably the only descent thing Ive typed on here. ← also agreed i'd like to point out that the use of the staement political correctness may offend politicians and local councilors so its must be replaced with cultural sensitivity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philking Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 (edited) i'd like to point out that the use of the staement political correctness may offend politicians and local councilors so its must be replaced with cultural sensitivity ← But that might offend people who are cultured and or sensetive :D Ha Ha, i think i have taken that joke a bit far! Tomturd if you feel a ban is appropriate, i understand. Edited April 8, 2005 by philking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardman Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 also agreed i'd like to point out that the use of the staement political correctness may offend politicians and local councilors so its must be replaced with cultural sensitivity ← I must agree to disagree with your earlier agreement that i agreed to and must disagree to agree to that. Does that make any sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunkey_monkey_boy Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 its a funny subject, i met a guy last summer who was in a wheel chair and he told me that between him and his other 'disabled' mates they call each other crip (short for cripple) but if a 'non disabled' person were to say it it wouldn't be right. at the same time though he said why is he refered to as disabled, he still does everything he wants and has a better life than 95% of the human population, just cos he's in a chair he doesn't see he's disadvantaged and feels being refered to as disabled is unkind. i also met a black lad a few years back who said when 'white' people refer to him as coloured he hates thm for it, he's not coloured he's black and stays black. its us 'whities' that are coloured, we're pink normally, white when cold, blue when very cold, grey when stoned, green when ill and red when sun burned, he's just black! oh yeah and 90% of politcal correctness is bollocks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 bah bah black sheep has been removed from nursery rhyme books..... thats political correctness for some but also racist for removing it in my eyes not really a win win situation is it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 What is our world coming to? You cant even say black sheep in a nursery rhyme for fecks sake! It's just getting stupid now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 In the light of your failure to elect a proper President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today. Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories. (Except Utah, which she does not fancy.) Your new prime minister (The Right Honourable Tony Blair, MP for the 97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire will be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed. To aid the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect: 1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium". Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'favour' and 'neighbour', skipping the letter 'U' is nothing more than laziness on your part. Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters. You will end your love affair with the letter 'Z' (pronounced 'zed' not 'zee'). You will learn that the suffix 'burgh is pronounced 'burra' e.g. Edinburgh. You are welcome to respell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you can't cope with correct pronunciation. Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up "vocabulary". Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. Look up "interspersed". There will be no more 'bleeps' in the Jerry Springer show. If you're not old enough to cope with bad language then you shouldn't have chat shows. When you learn to develop your vocabulary then you won't have to use bad language as often. 2. There is no such thing as "US English". We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u'. 3. You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard. English accents are not limited to Cockney, upper-class twit or Mancunian (Daphne in Frasier). You will also have to learn how to understand regional accents - Scottish dramas such as "Taggart"will no longer be broadcast with subtitles. While we're talking about regions, you must learn that there is no such place as Devonshire in England. The name of the county is "Devon". If you persist in calling it Devonshire, all American States will become "shires" e.g. Texasshire, Floridashire, Louisianashire. 4. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the good guys. Hollywood will be required to cast English actors to play English characters. British sit-coms such as "Men Behaving Badly" or "Red Dwarf" will not be re-cast and watered down for a wishy-washy American audience who can't cope with the humour of occasional political incorrectness. 5. You should relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get confused and give up half way through. 6. You should stop playing American "football". There is only one kind of football. What you refer to as American "football" is not a very good game. The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You will no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US rugby sevens side by 2005. You should stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the 'World Series' for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.15% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. Instead of baseball, you will be allowed to play a girls' game called "rounders" which is baseball without fancy team strip, oversized gloves, collector cards or hotdogs. 7. You should declare war on Quebec and France, using nuclear weapons if they give you any merde. The 97.85% of you who were not aware that there is a world outside your borders should count yourselves lucky. The Russians have never been the bad guys. "Merde" is French for "5hit". You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous in public than a vegetable peeler. Because we don't believe you are sensible enough to handle potentially dangerous items, you will require a permit if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public. 8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 2nd will be a new national holiday, but only in England. It will be called "Indecisive Day". 9. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean. All road intersections will be replaced with roundabouts. You will start driving on the left with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour. 10. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips. Fries aren't even French, they are Belgian though 97.85% of you (including the guy who discovered fries while in Europe) are not aware of a country called Belgium. Those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called "crisps". Real chips are thick cut and fried in animal fat. The traditional accompaniment to chips is beer which should be served warm and flat. Waitresses will be trained to be more aggressive with customers. 11. As a sign of penance 5 grams of sea salt per cup will be added to all tea made within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, this quantity to be doubled for tea made within the city of Boston itself. 12. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all, it is lager. From November 1st only proper British Bitter will be referred to as "beer", and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as "Lager". The substances formerly known as "American Beer" will henceforth be referred to as "Near-Frozen Gnats' Urine", with the exception of the product of the American Budweiser company whose product will be referred to as "Weak Near-Frozen Gnats' Urine". This will allow true Budweiser (as manufactured for the last 1000 years in Pilsen, Czech Republic) to be sold without risk of confusion. 13. From December 1st the UK will harmonise petrol (or "Gasoline" as you will be permitted to keep calling it until April 1st 2005) prices with the former USA. The UK will harmonise its prices to those of the former USA and the Former USA will, in return, adopt UK petrol prices (roughly $6/US gallon - get used to it). 14. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun. 15. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy. Tax collectors from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all revenues due (backdated to 1776). Thank you for your cooperation. >_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomR Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 Ithink theres too much going on in the world these days to warrent all this political correctness. Surely there ar emore important issues nationally and internationally that need more attention than telling people what they cant stay or shouldnt say. ← Yes, but thats exactly why theyre doing it. The government are stuck for what to do to help the real problems like the health service and all that, so they arse about with school meals, PC'ness and stuff like that. I think all political correctness does ti create even more tension because people are more and more weary of it all. f**k it i say, if someones black - theyre black. If theyre asian - theyre asian, if theyre disabled - theyre disabled. As for changing the names of blackboards, im not even going ot go there... its a board and its black you morons! we didnt go 'hey look at that nigger, lets call this invention a blackboard to degrade him'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 (edited) I once had to miss a lunch break at school for refering to our 'chalk board' as a 'black board' The same for black bags, they were waste bags or bin liners in my school. Edited April 9, 2005 by Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom s Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 Yeah I was gonna mention that^^^^^^, yet they still refer to white boards as white boards, what's the deal? >_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Nichols Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 No, but it still isn't very nice. Lets say you had some facial deformity, and I started calling you "horrific facial deformity boy", it wouldn't put you in the best of moods. ← There's no comparison. Your ethnic group has no relation to any form of disfigurement. Also, with reference to your "horrific facial deformity boy" word - theres a difference.. 'nigga' is never going to be as offensive as 'black scum' equally calling a white person 'snowdrop' is not as offensive as being called 'white trash'. They probably took it out to try and hide the writers' ignorance... ← Or because at the time of writing the script there wasn't much political correctness flying round so they could type that. Also its a television programme that loosely depicts real life so it should be acceptable to use the word pakki. An asian man on Eastenders was referred to as 'The local Al Qaeda' a couple of weeks ago, this for example, is acceptable as it's a soap. i also met a black lad a few years back who said when 'white' people refer to him as coloured he hates thm for it, he's not coloured he's black and stays black. its us 'whities' that are coloured, we're pink normally, white when cold, blue when very cold, grey when stoned, green when ill and red when sun burned, he's just black! ← That made me chuckle >_< I've never fully understood why black people call each other 'niggas' - they do it in an affectionate way usually and so they can hardly blame people for calling them niggas... It's like the phrase goes - "Practice What You Preach'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardman Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 I once had to miss a lunch break at school for refering to our 'chalk board' as a 'black board' The same for black bags, they were waste bags or bin liners in my school. ← Thats just stupid I would have told them were to shove it up my white candy ass. Oh and I saw red riding hood on the fimbles and its so rubbish they all live happily instad of the wolf eating people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 was watching thomas the tank engine yesterday on cbeebies and percy kept blowing his whistle real loud and scaring people.. and he got in trouble but kept doing it.. anyway it was supposed to go along the lines of the boy who cried wolf? people know it yes? its where the kid keeps saying theres a wolf killing the sheep.. then when there actually is one no one believes him and they all die. Well anyway in this one percy had lied about 4 times for blowing is whistle too loud and then there was snow on the track and he blew and thomas heard and beleived him.... resulting in a happy ending. I was more angry thomas didnt de rail than anything else. But still... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Nichols Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 Yeah I know exactly what you mean... There was this chap up the road frmo me who bought a red car... but personally I would have gone for a grey one because it matches his suit. Skateboards. Bench. Viagra. Turtleneck Dove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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