Bigman Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 (edited) Righty then, just found these on OTN, the new echo team, back in 2 lengths again: New "Hi-Fi" 26inch 55mm BB rise, 1080mm WB: I think they look nice, but like they have tried to go for the XTP look, obviously, but not been able to afford the full CNC brake mounts, and just went for an in-built booster, oh well, see what they are like once they are releaced. Adam Edited March 23, 2005 by Bigman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siders77 Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 They/It is quite nice actually! I like that a lot. >_< Good find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothy Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 I've not had any mod exerience, and don't know hardly anything about them, but I think that they look gorgeous, better than the XTP's, although it all depends how they ride i suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamHolmes Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 :ermm: Love it It looks SO nice >_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 I think they look great, the stock sounds like it has really good geo (what I would want anyway) and I think its a lot better looking than the xtp (quite an ugly frame) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colly Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 (edited) edit: is the hi-5 the stock 1080,? at first i thought it was the mod i was gonna say 1080 >_<" Edited March 23, 2005 by colly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChai Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 that head tube looks weakish... lol other then that.. thats really nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Motivator Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 55mm bb rise! Mod stem needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigman Posted March 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 (edited) 55mm bb rise! Mod stem needed ← Hmm, i think a mod stem would be abit to high for a 55mm bb rise, i mean the tarty proto, that had 85mm bb rise and didn't use a stem as high as a mod (correct me if wrong ads or dave) I think maybe a 25deg or sumet not 100% sure Ok, after a little play on a calculator, using my 120mm 5 deg stem, worked out what angle would be required for a 120mm lenght stem, that was 60mm higher to compensate for the BB rise, it worked out at slightly over 30 deg: 120 tan 5 = 10.5mm so 120mm length, say 60mm higher to compensate: INV tan (70.5/120) = 30.4 degrees, I think that is right. Adam Edited March 23, 2005 by Bigman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Motivator Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Ok, after a little play on a calculator, using my 120mm 5 deg stem, worked out what angle would be required for a 120mm lenght stem, that was 60mm higher to compensate for the BB rise, it worked out at slightly over 30 deg: 120 tan 5 = 10.5mm so 120mm length, say 60mm higher to compensate: INV tan (70.5/120) = 30.4 degrees, I think that is right. Adam ← Oh dear lol :lol: Good stuff though (Y) Thought trig would never serve a purpose in life :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMunn Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 They are quite yummy, I would much rather one of those over a koxx xtp deffinatly. Good stuff. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 If that Hi-Fi comes in at a good price, then i've just found my new frame. Looking great. Also not sure on the headtube though. Will see heh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Looks like it should come in at under £400, if the expected US$ price is anything to go by (compared with current US prices of the Control) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smo™ Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 (edited) Anyone got a clue on the release dates of these frames? I'm loving the Hi-Fi, may well be my next :lol: Edit: It looks chrome like the Coustellier frame, am I right or is it my eyes playing tricks? Edited March 23, 2005 by Smo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aust Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Anyone got a clue on the release dates of these frames? I'm loving the Hi-Fi, may well be my next :lol: Edit: It looks chrome like the Coustellier frame, am I right or is it my eyes playing tricks? ← its polished like the coustellier yeah... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Anyone got a clue on the release dates of these frames? ← Apparently May time ish... so that means end of summer in bike-industry speak :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Booth Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 The hi-fi looks extremely nice, does anybody have a clue what stem size will be needed? if it will have to be a mod stem? (i know bigman said this up there but im a bit confused as to what he said!) Cheers Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigman Posted March 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 The hi-fi looks extremely nice, does anybody have a clue what stem size will be needed? if it will have to be a mod stem? (i know bigman said this up there but im a bit confused as to what he said!) Cheers Tom ← Read abit further up, i have already answered this question :lol: Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Booth Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 (i know bigman said this up there but im a bit confused as to what he said!) ← Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 so 120mm length, say 60mm higher to compensate = 30.4 degrees, I think that is right. ← Tis pretty simple :lol: 'Normal' MTB trials stem might be 120mm x 5/10 degrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Booth Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Tis pretty simple :lol: ← s'cus im a simpleton!!! Cheers mate might wait till these come out then unleash a full on scale bike buying fest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Drewery Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 They look very sweet, some nice innovative designs, im sure they'll be very good frames, probably take over the current echo frames to be the most popular :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbob Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 you knows what mod frame im getting :lol: (if it does come shiny chromey like it looks in the pics) (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyroo Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Am I the only one who prefers brushed aluminium as opposed to polished? Not to keen on the built in booster lookswise, but it looks pretty sturdy! Reminds of that over cnc'd onza mod proto a while back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 That headtube looks gash IMO but if the geos good and it rides nice how it looks doesnt matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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