sstein Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 how often do you take out your inner tube to find its full of water? never! The same with tubles, if its sealed, how can water get in?and dave, when Mike said it can fold more, he means the trye can fold over without burping air, it wont fold over mcu more than a tubed set up (might fold a teeeeeny weeeeeeny bit more due to thinner sidewalls cos of no tube)I actually quite often take off peoples tyres and find that there is a lot of moisture inside their tube, I have even found a puddle in someones tyres a couple of times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun H Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 I actually quite often take off peoples tyres and find that there is a lot of moisture inside their tube, I have even found a puddle in someones tyres a couple of timesThe post you replied to is from 2005...Anyway, Steve I think the manufacturer recomends you inflate the tyre using a compressor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 If its liquid. What happens if you stop? Im still not convinced. Seems like a lot of hassle, weather it be easy or not, its still hassle. Nice idea though. Maybe once when the technology has evolved a bit, it may catch on.Don't really think its ready yet. No idea why, just don't Meh, if it works. Good on you.you have to use a compressor with these kits...they need the high volume of air Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstein Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 The post you replied to is from 2005...I know, just saying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve@banbury-trials Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) cheers for the replys.i thought you lot would suggest a compressor ,i thought i'd use a floor pump as that was reccomended in the instruction too,i'll go and find one now loljust finished fitting the tubeless kit and the jobs done Edited February 22, 2009 by steve@banbury-trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Just make sure you keep a decent amount of pressure in the tyres 30-35psi in 2.1" tyres on XM819s was the minimum I found to be safe for XC use - they will pull off the rims and let all the air out if you land on them sideways. I also pinch punctured a Conti tyre I was running tubeless with light sidewalls, again on an XC bike, so they have a major thumbs down from me for XC use and I wouldn't even consider them for trials... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 HeheTell us how it goes! I've wondered a couple of times why trials riders don't have tubeless tyres, what with the weight savings and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6ft-midget Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 There's pretty much no tyre which can't be sealed, even old tyres with small (ish) holes in them will just be sealed, although i couldn't do it on my koxx (drilled) rim. It's very hard to seal around the holes succesfully! But all other (non-drilled) rims should be fine! I'll be running it in the rear once i get my new echo rim!Mike. I don't think that I'll be trying it my Onza Hog rim anytime soon then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamus Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 i've heard of some MTB DIY kits that basically mean you:1 split an innertube in half2 insert the valve in the rim as usual3 fit your tyre with the innertube sticking out between the tyre and the rim4 add the sealant stuff and inflate 5 trim the excess tube off.- hey presto jobs a goodunand seeing as the latex is between the tube and trye rather then just tape and tyre, if you ran a rim tape as well would it be possible on drilled rims?i know people use this on standard rims without special tape or anything. i know you wouldn't save much weight in terms of removing the tube really but it would be unpinchable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 i've heard of some MTB DIY kits that basically mean you:1 split an innertube in half2 insert the valve in the rim as usual3 fit your tyre with the innertube sticking out between the tyre and the rim4 add the sealant stuff and inflate 5 trim the excess tube off.- hey presto jobs a goodunand seeing as the latex is between the tube and trye rather then just tape and tyre, if you ran a rim tape as well would it be possible on drilled rims?i know people use this on standard rims without special tape or anything. i know you wouldn't save much weight in terms of removing the tube really but it would be unpinchableThis method is usually termed a 'ghetto' tubeless setup. I've seen quite a few people claim they work but haven't tried it (I've used UST setups and find them disappointing). The trick to making the rim tape is to slit open a 20" tube to seal a 26" rim, so the tube is stretched onto the rim to form a good rim tape. No reason this couldn't be done using a drilled trials rim provided a suitable rim tape was fitted first and the 20" tube was big enough to cover the full width of the rim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 For the ghetto kids among us,http://www.vimeo.com/1086409I also think you'd be able to seal drilled rims really well with that technique. I remember Dan UrbanLegend running tubeless, and although he did keep squirting jizz outta his tyres, he was doing some pretty big pinch gaps with very low pressure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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