Mark W Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 The Profile has 48 engagement points. The Eno freewheel has 72. However, the Profile has a chain attached to it, and you have a gear ratio. The ratio is 18:12, so for one pedal revolution, you'll actually get 72 engagement points - the same as the front-mounted Eno. So yeah, they're equal engagement-wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PythonRider Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 i have got tubeless running on my rear viz 20" rim now... (Y) have yet to test reliability when riding.. but it looks promising ;) ← Drilled Viz rim? Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatmike Posted March 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Drilled Viz rim? Tom ← Yeah, as Ali C explained earlier ( (Y)" ), and Mr Chai explained to me on Msn, you can seal any rim!. I'll try explaining again: Hope that helps. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Tupman Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 So we don't even need the rim tap now ;) guess i'll be buying some latex then (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatmike Posted March 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 So we don't even need the rim tap now ;) guess i'll be buying some latex then (Y) ← I'd still use a couple of layers of insulation tape!! The rim strip's still acting like a normal tube would, so it's just as likely to burst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 So we don't even need the rim tap now ;) guess i'll be buying some latex then (Y) ← the proper rim strip works better, but only fits a range of rim widths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 so how much weight does this actually save and what happens if you get latex on ur rear rim?!?! youd be on ur arse me thinks! it all seems like a lot of hassle for those times when it rains nails and that guy from the video come up to your bike and stabs nails into the tyres ;) convince all of us that are jubious! (Y) Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 to me, its main point is to make my bike lighter for comps without puncturing, for street riders, no pinch punctures and no worries if you ride over glass or nails. I think it has a bigger market in the comp scene than street to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatmike Posted March 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 what happens if you get latex on ur rear rim?!?! youd be on ur arse me thinks! ← Liquid latex is water soluble, so if some goes on your rim when it's wet, just wipe it off with a damp cloth. If it's on your rim and it dries, just peel it off... it all seems like a lot of hassle for those times when it rains nails and that guy from the video come up to your bike and stabs nails into the tyres :unsure: ← (1st post) Lighter Impossible to pinch Punctures sealed nearly immediately Can run tyres at lower pressures. (Wont pinch, and they can fold more due to there being a tight seal between tyre and rim) Urr yeah. I think the no pinching is probably the biggest seller... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brant@on-one Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Urr yeah. I think the no pinching is probably the biggest seller... ← Yeah. But if you don't want to try Notubes, try Yestubes! http://www.yestubes.com/product.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Liquid latex is water soluble, so if some goes on your rim when it's wet, just wipe it off with a damp cloth. If it's on your rim and it dries, just peel it off... (1st post) Lighter Impossible to pinch Punctures sealed nearly immediately Can run tyres at lower pressures. (Wont pinch, and they can fold more due to there being a tight seal between tyre and rim) Urr yeah. I think the no pinching is probably the biggest seller... ← Tyre fold is baddddddddddd though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inzane_2 Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Liquid latex is water soluble, so if some goes on your rim when it's wet, just wipe it off with a damp cloth. If it's on your rim and it dries, just peel it off... Surely if its wet then it wont fix the puncture?!? Does this mean we have to keep away from the rain/wet surfaces/puddles?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 how often do you take out your inner tube to find its full of water? never! The same with tubles, if its sealed, how can water get in? and dave, when Mike said it can fold more, he means the trye can fold over without burping air, it wont fold over mcu more than a tubed set up (might fold a teeeeeny weeeeeeny bit more due to thinner sidewalls cos of no tube) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials Tom Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Maybe not, because as mike said to the guy that asked about you being on your back if the 'liquid' latex got on your rim.....if it's still wet, as it's water soluble, you can wipe it off with a damp cloth....and if it's already dry, peel it off! Why not use a combination of both options, use a sliced up inner tube as the rim-strip and bung some liquid latex in too! Might work out cheaper. you could use some rim tape or gaffa tape to stop it ripping on the spokes too. He didn't actually mention anything about drilled rims though....maybe normal rimtape, some duck tape over that AND a sliced up innertube with latex'd work?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Why not use a combination of both options, use a sliced up inner tube as the rim-strip and bung some liquid latex in too! ← Isn't that exactly what this whole thread is about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Yeah, pretty much. I dig that YesTubes site. Speaketh the truth. I can run pressures as low as I want and never rim or pinch? I hate super soft tyres just 'cos it feels like wank. I know in comps you can get more grip on slippery stuff, but in the real world it makes your bike feel like a barge, it just reacts weirdly on angled surfaces, etc. So yeah, not for me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 sorry for my arrogance(as i havent read the whole thread) but where do you get the liquid latex from? is it the same stuff as that 'slime' stuff or halfords own? Cheers. Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatmike Posted March 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 sorry for my arrogance(as i havent read the whole thread) but where do you get the liquid latex from? is it the same stuff as that 'slime' stuff or halfords own? Cheers. Will ← Noooo, completely different. Ebay, about £3. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Noooo, completely different. Ebay, about £3. :unsure: ← chears (Y) Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inzane_2 Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 how often do you take out your inner tube to find its full of water? never! The same with tubles, if its sealed, how can water get in? and dave, when Mike said it can fold more, he means the trye can fold over without burping air, it wont fold over mcu more than a tubed set up (might fold a teeeeeny weeeeeeny bit more due to thinner sidewalls cos of no tube) ← nahhh, i mean if there is a hole in your tube, there is gonna be liquid latex on the outside sealing it, so wouldnt it just sorta wash off and then the hole needs to be resealed, or is it only soluble when its in liquid form?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 It only needs to seal the tube though I guess, so it doesn't need to seal the outer edge? I can see what you mean about it being wet on the surface layer, but I'm thinking the latex would erupt out before any water got onto the tube through the hole in the tyre, so it'd be dry before it got moistened? Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 nahhh, i mean if there is a hole in your tube, there is gonna be liquid latex on the outside sealing it, so wouldnt it just sorta wash off and then the hole needs to be resealed, or is it only soluble when its in liquid form?? ← The latex goes on the inside :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inzane_2 Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 The latex goes on the inside :lol: ← But if theres a puncture the latex is on the outside?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotchDave Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 Turns out that the advice about drilling the bigger hole actually has some use if you use a thin rim and a tight tire (x618 and fire xc) couldn't get the b*****d to seal, oh well I'll have to borrow the techy departments drill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve@banbury-trials Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) incredably old topic to bring up but it does save on making a new one,so here goes. . . . im starting the conversion of my 24" wheelset to tubless ,i bought the notube conversion kit and have fitted the rim tape with the valve onto the rim,im now attempting to inflate the tire but it just wont go up,i believe this is because the tire bead isnt against the rim enough(tire being a dmr moto,rim being atomlab) ,does anyone have any tips on inflation?im using a floor pump by the way,i hope this to be enough but would a compresser be best?cheers,steve Edited February 21, 2009 by steve@banbury-trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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