guineasmithpig Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 i still wanna have a crack at a diy jobby just that it cud be a bit messy if it all goes pete tong (Y) anyways, top job boys. another evolution in the world of trials. b e a uuuuutiful smithy x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 If its liquid. What happens if you stop? (Y) Im still not convinced. Seems like a lot of hassle, weather it be easy or not, its still hassle. Nice idea though. Maybe once when the technology has evolved a bit, it may catch on. Don't really think its ready yet. No idea why, just don't :) Meh, if it works. Good on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 If its liquid. What happens if you stop? (Y) ← The bits sealing the rim tape etc aren't liquid. They've dried and hardened. To be honest, 6 moths ago I'd have killed for this. I used to get pinches all the time. Maybe I've just been lucky, or got smoother, or just don't ride as much now, but I'm not getting too many problems with my tubes. Maybe it's the Maxxis actually. Anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Bleech Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 I assume that if you do get a puncture and it seals up, but you have lost some air! you can just top up using a standard pump (Y) Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotchDave Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 Tomm, it's been around for years, just not been used for trials, I considered it at the begining of last summer and had thought about it before that. And Mike, you lose barely any air, we're talkin for a nail not even one psi in a big chamber tyre. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee_Buchanan Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 That video remins me of one of them dodgy channels on sky!!!!! Buy Now Pay In 4 Years. Stick with tubes. If you get a puncture fix it!!! LEE :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 ok, while your not riding fixing your puncture, I will be happlily hopping about gleefull in the thought that I wont have that hassle again :(" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 ok, while your not riding fixing your puncture, I will be happlily hopping about gleefull in the thought that I wont have that hassle again :(" ← And while you send your wheel to Mike, we'll gleefully ride on, and when you pay him £10 we'll gleefully take a money bath :S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 PAH! I was the one who explained it to mike, I know perfectly well how to do it :S . I told people how to do it nearly a year ago but no one too any notice. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotchDave Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 Technology has been around for years Ali, but there were people on here who thought that the air would "burp" out of the sidewalls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 Technology has been around for years Ali, but there were people on here who thought that the air would "burp" out of the sidewalls ← true The first one I made did burp air when it folded and when you rimmed it, but I made that with slime sealent and not latex. I did one recently with latex and its soooooo much better, it just doesnt burp at all and it seals punctures a lot better. I was just explaining to mark that I wouldnt need to send it to mike to do, thats all. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotchDave Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 No-one needs to send it to Mike, it's REALLY not a hard job. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cultiv8ed ::Chris:: Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 No-one needs to send it to Mike, it's REALLY not a hard job. :S ← yeh but some people are lazy and then some are really dumb :( chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChai Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 i have got tubeless running on my rear viz 20" rim now... :turned: have yet to test reliability when riding.. but it looks promising :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dann Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 LMAO That guy would be screwed at 0.46 secs on that video if he missed! ← Ye i was thinking the same thing. lol! Was it neccessary to go as stabby as that? :turned: Doubt anybody would ever get punctures as harsh as that? unless they got attacked by pikeys?...... :) perhaps thats what it was invented for! I think its a good idea, i might convert my XC bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials tom_s Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 (edited) Ok dont laugh if im way way wrong!!! but outta curiousity... is there any problems with letting air out of the tire... as all the air..goes into the tire itself.. and thats where the liquid latex is etc.. and supposedly the rushin out of air causes the liquid latex to seal the hole.. ..so if you a rider who like to play about with you tire pressure alot...will it try and seal your valve... because i was thinking ... dont be silly the valve isnt near the tire really..whats it gonna do ...fire the latex up into the valve.. lol but then i was thinking if you got a lil latex in bottom of tire...and you hole is quite a way up in your side wall..then it must get rushed up by the air. hmmmmmm... hope that makes sense.. could some1 like fat mike or ali c...who know what they talking about enlighten me. because i really wanna convert to tubless..but i gotta get some knew rims 1st and koxxs dont work apparently. thanks. Tom. (Y) Edited March 11, 2005 by Trials tom_s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Make Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Ok dont laugh if im way way wrong!!! but outta curiousity... is there any problems with letting air out of the tire... ← I worked it out like this: the liquid latex is always at the very bottom of the tire, punctures will go through latex bath and threfore get sealed. If you operate your valve when it is at the highest point of wheel there shouldn't be any issues caused by latex clogging up the valve. I'm not sure about this though, just seems to make some sence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 there is always a little pool at the bottom, but when you ride it coats all the inside of the tyre in a thin layer. I left my wheel standing for about a week then took the tyre off, there was still a layer of liquid latex all inside the tyre. However, I never had any probs with the valve clogging, I was trying to puncture the tyre and was messing about with differernt pressures with no probs (and no puncture even when one of the tread ripped off!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials tom_s Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 cool... sounds good!! so what rims shud i buy then.. because koxx rims dont work do they? i wud really like to keep with red rims though.. suggestions? Tom (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartridge Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Aint gonna find anything to fit that bill unfortunately... Im sure you could seal the rim somehow. But it'd weigh a fair bit, therefore be totally pointless! PS: Check your mail Tom (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 theres no reason you cant seal a koxx rim, just do the inertube thing I said earlier, doesnt weigh any more than a normal tube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 All this about weight? I can't really see how this tubeless stuff has anything to do with weight saving. I always thought it was peace of mind, as well as being able to run any tyre you want, without having to look for puncture resistance. If all along this has been about weight, then it really is quite pointless surely. As adam has already mentioned, and others, by the time you have the liquid in there, and latex'ed up the sidewalls to secure it, it probably would be the same if you had a tube in anyway, surely? (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartridge Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Fair enough. I guess i hadnt considered that cos i don't have puncture issues due to not landing land like a sack of spuds (Y) (or doing big moves, i guess you could say) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 All this about weight? I can't really see how this tubeless stuff has anything to do with weight saving. I always thought it was peace of mind, as well as being able to run any tyre you want, without having to look for puncture resistance. If all along this has been about weight, then it really is quite pointless surely. As adam has already mentioned, and others, by the time you have the liquid in there, and latex'ed up the sidewalls to secure it, it probably would be the same if you had a tube in anyway, surely? (Y) ← For my comp bike its about weight saving AND peace of mind (using much lighter tyres) for my other (to be made) bike its just peace of mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials tom_s Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Got my mail tartridge.. you know.. i didnt even realise you were one and the same person!!! god im blonde.. ps - msg passed to my girlfriend bout the sport i'll grow out of!! lol.. tart...profile rear hubs have less engagement then ENO's.. so apart from the fact you dont get you trousers caught.. whats makes them worth twice the price.. i never had a go on a profile..and only the smallest go on an ENO. i wear 3/4's so the trouser thing dont bother me.. just trying to put into prespective.. whats available and why everyone seems to want profile. mail me buddy! cheers (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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