Michael Hardman Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 If you want a well tuned angine look no further than any vw car great engineering fro mthe germans. My ideal car now is an r32 but only time will tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Papasnap Maher Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 If you want a well tuned angine look no further than any vw car great engineering fro mthe germans. My ideal car now is an r32 but only time will tell ← And lots of money :blink:" ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prawny Baby Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 there seems to be some misunderstanding, i never set out to compare my type r with his car and i have not gone on about how good a type r is blah blah, i don't come on here bragging about my car like some persons on here, not mentioning names.. i simply pointed out the bhp figures and 0-60 top speed figures were wildly over estimated in his first post, and i asked him to explain, he changed his explanation several times in an attempt to save face but has proven himself to be a pete wright aka "truth bender"! i don't care for a photo of an escort, i've proven my point that he bent the truth(don't want to say lied incase he starts crying again) about his figures but then he started bigging up an mr2 that he doesn't even own..and then started the spam.. ← ill go along with that phill.... his initial bhp figures and performance stats do seema little OTT what i dont agree with though, is your calculation for transmission losses.... did you say take away 10% then add 10bhp to that? or something along those lines.... theres so much more to it than that!!!! it all depends on the box, transfer gears, wheel size.... my current mini gearbox looses over 26bhp from the crank to the wheels! yet a well built standard box can loose as little as 15bhp, throw in a straight cut gear set and a set of straight cut drop gears and that figure could come down to 10bhp.... thers no way of telling how much a box will loose.... ive heard that there have been mini boxes built with such care and attention to detail that as little as 5-7 bhp as been lost.... general equations dont really work in the auto world do they.... that said, i followed a type R home tonight, and it truely is a LOVELY car on a totally seperate note though.... pete wright now lives about 30mins from me :blink: i see him regularly! madness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocktrials Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 prawns the man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave85 Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 ......, throw in a straight cut gear set and a set of straight cut drop gears and that figure could come down to 10bhp.... ← yeah, and about nine of those ponies will be coming out as noise ;) :blink:" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil white Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 ill go along with that phill.... his initial bhp figures and performance stats do seema little OTT what i dont agree with though, is your calculation for transmission losses.... did you say take away 10% then add 10bhp to that? or something along those lines.... theres so much more to it than that!!!! it all depends on the box, transfer gears, wheel size.... my current mini gearbox looses over 26bhp from the crank to the wheels! yet a well built standard box can loose as little as 15bhp, throw in a straight cut gear set and a set of straight cut drop gears and that figure could come down to 10bhp.... thers no way of telling how much a box will loose.... ive heard that there have been mini boxes built with such care and attention to detail that as little as 5-7 bhp as been lost.... general equations dont really work in the auto world do they.... that said, i followed a type R home tonight, and it truely is a LOVELY car on a totally seperate note though.... pete wright now lives about 30mins from me :blink: i see him regularly! madness ← i can't really talk from experience just what i've been told by a good friend who recently dyno'd my car and a bit of reseach. this sum has apparently been researched by dyno operators in conjunction with bosch and vw for many years now. the guide is to deduct 10% of the flywheel figure plus another 10 bhp for FWD and 12% plus 10 bhp for RWD. If you are starting from a wheel bhp figure then you have to apply those equations in reverse - add 10 bhp then divide by 0.9 for FWD or 0.88 for RWD to get back to a flywheel figure. it worked on mine and two other type r's, clio 182,seat leon cupra and ford focus rs that attended the dyno day and was correct within 1-2 bhp each time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannytrials Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 (edited) Here we go. Stop all your'e arguing and get a motorbike, best grin to £ rate going!!!! My £2200 bike has been known to embarass owners of 3.2 litre audi tt's worth £20k plus hehe. No honestly though some nice cars on here, have to say I like the mini's the most, specially prawns, damn nice. Dan. EDIT: Before anyone comment's, I am riding on the right side of the road, that's a slip road to the left! >_< Edited April 30, 2005 by Dannytrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil white Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 (edited) lowered 35mm and all round camber adjusters with fast road setup ready for new rims! will take some more when new wheels are fitted and calipers painted! Edited May 1, 2005 by phil white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the666ers Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Just a little idea, why change the wheels? Whats wrong with those ones??? It's a fantastic car as it is, and is designed to use those wheels so will undoubtably not be as good with different sized wheels. Even if you got the same sizes what's the point in changing them for something that looks different? I just see it as a waste of money. If you want to do it then fairplay but I can't see it looking any better, it's great as it is and theres no point kevving a lovely car like that. What wheels are you intending to put on? If it looks fantastic and doesnt loose you any money I'll retract all of the above. James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil white Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 (edited) Just a little idea, why change the wheels? Whats wrong with those ones??? It's a fantastic car as it is, and is designed to use those wheels so will undoubtably not be as good with different sized wheels. Even if you got the same sizes what's the point in changing them for something that looks different? I just see it as a waste of money. If you want to do it then fairplay but I can't see it looking any better, it's great as it is and theres no point kevving a lovely car like that. What wheels are you intending to put on? If it looks fantastic and doesnt loose you any money I'll retract all of the above. James ← yeah no worries, i agree, the fact is the current tyres(bridgestone potenza) are shite and cause snap oversteer and are the main gripe of every type r driver, i got offerred a set of 18's with pirelli pzero nero tyres that will have almost the same rolling radius as these and are lighter than the standard ones but for cheaper than a new set of tyres for the 17's so i thought what the hell! so the originals will be for track and 18's for road! i confused myself explainig that! besides wheels and suspension aren't kevvie, its when you cross the line to bodykits and neons you spoil it! cheers Edited May 1, 2005 by phil white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prawny Baby Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 agreed :S getting decnet boots and suspension to handle the bumps is all about getting the power down to the road in the msot efficient way possible!!!! its not kevvie, its all about making the bastards look stupid! and that is a SERIOUSLY nice car.... wheels are a funny thing.... on a mini, bigger is BAD, the smaller the better for handling!!!! yet on my mums a3, it was running on 15'' alloys with 195 cheap tyres, we changed these for a set of 8x17 tt alloys with 225 continental tyres and the difference is INCREDIBLE, its literally a different car, its much mroe responsive, more stable at all speeds, and the sheer grip on a roundabout is astouding!!!! at the end of the day, its how it goes that counts :lol: my mini did 119mph today :lol::D:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonno Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 my mini did 119mph today :lol::D:D ← Foooook me! nice going!! :S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the666ers Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Cool that's fine, I just thought you were going out spending mega bucks replacing already excellent wheels. But yeah tyres are rape. I bought some wheels for my golf because it's cheaper as you said, and I totally agree with the suspension thing and that. I'll be lowering my golf on alloys and subtling it all so yeah. Lets see it afterwards :S James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 my sisters boyfriend has the golf to end all golfs, heres a rough spec mk2 golf in yellow VR6 2.8litre engine POWER STEERING ON A MK2 GOLF scorpian full inlet manafold(sp*) stainless exhaust lowered roll cage=2 seats wide arches mk3 dash boad mk3 rims conveted to 5 stud to fit mk2 all the engine mods air filter strut bars ect..... seriously fast would wipe the flaw with your civic type r :S :lol:" (not meant to offend just freindly banter) Will get pics tomoz may have some on my comp now will look for them in a bit. guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocktrials Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 my sisters boyfriend has the golf to end all golfs, heres a rough spec mk2 golf in yellow VR6 2.8litre engine POWER STEERING ON A MK2 GOLF scorpian full inlet manafold(sp*) stainless exhaust lowered roll cage=2 seats wide arches mk3 dash boad mk3 rims conveted to 5 stud to fit mk2 all the engine mods air filter strut bars ect..... seriously fast would wipe the flaw with your civic type r :S :lol:" (not meant to offend just freindly banter) Will get pics tomoz may have some on my comp now will look for them in a bit. guy ← please do cause i do wanna see this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the666ers Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Even this golf? You know the engine your on about, yeah, well this one has two of those, running nitrous. Couldn't find any pics or a video, but they also have a 1100bhp 40v twin engined Mk4 which well, is obviously going to be a bit quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiltop Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Even this golf? You know the engine your on about, yeah, well this one has two of those, running nitrous. Couldn't find any pics or a video, but they also have a 1100bhp 40v twin engined Mk4 which well, is obviously going to be a bit quick. ← f**kin hell that is a beast and a half (Y) :- love to go really ott like that if only i had the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Even this golf? You know the engine your on about, yeah, well this one has two of those, running nitrous. Couldn't find any pics or a video, but they also have a 1100bhp 40v twin engined Mk4 which well, is obviously going to be a bit quick. ← Ha ha, yawn If you think thats good, look at this little baby, and yes it is a MK1 golf, and yes that is 190mph........ http://zim.pl/iso.wmv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 (edited) yer a W12 basicly two v6's you can also get W16's which is two v8's put together. I think the zonda uses a W18 or something. That 1000 horsepower car or what ever it is is going to be using one i think aswell. lolz picture up when i see him i will be able to get more info off him aswell the car is a beaste. guy edit 8+8 doesnt = 18 it = 16 :"> (Y)" Edited May 2, 2005 by guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunkey_monkey_boy Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 W18's which is two v8's ← i know nothing about cars but surely two v8's would be w16??? 2x8=16 maybe its a car thing and they chose to ignore the maths but seems kinda wierd to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Has anyone seen my shoe? Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 (edited) EDIT: (Y) Thanks, Callum Edited May 2, 2005 by Has anyone seen my shoe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunkey_monkey_boy Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 So basically to work it out (2x8)-8! ← eh? 2x8=16 not 8 like you said or 18 like he said... i understand the vx2=w thing but the numbers dont add up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inzane_2 Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 surely if you had a W engine configuration surely that would need two drive cranks and two gear boxes?!?! or is it me being dumb and two completely seperate engines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishwog Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Pah, 190mph.......... The New nismo skyline has just donethe quarter mile in 8.4 seconds...... A new drag car out has also done the 1/4 mile in 5.1 seconds..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Has anyone seen my shoe? Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 no 2x8 takeaway 8 lol Thanks, Callum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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