Whiteboy Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 ok well i know ive made about a thousand topics about frames. but its now beetween these two frames. only problem is i dont know too much about them so i was wondering of some people could help me out? just want to know what each frame is good for and how they ride etc. would also like to know what frame is good for wat( gaps etc). call it like a mini reveiw if you like. any help would be brilliant. thanks tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatsink Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 There's no need to spend all that extra money on the Crescent, it would be wasted in my opinion. I'd take advantage of the recent relatively great value frames that are now available. If I was looking for a frame I'd consider the '05 Saracen MAD one too. From first glances it looks to be a good value frame, which has an improved seatstay-seat tube junction over the Base. Not as if I'm ever going to break my Base though! I wonder how much the Saracen's will be - maybe they're already on sale. One of them has 4 bolt rear mounts which I would think is an improvement making it easier to set my brake up - it usually takes me ages! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairy elephants Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 Lets face it, whatever you get, we'll be seeing posts like this within a couple of months. Whats wrong with the monty?? (N)" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteboy Posted January 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 i was looking at the saracens but they do not sell as just a frame ( or frame kit) so that put me oof. if i was going to get a saracen means i would have to pay 250 for the bottom spec maybe be able to sell some of the stuff and thats for the bottom spec one. i mean does the geomatry change as the price increases or is it just colour and bike spec? the reason for considering the crescen tis that i have bean offered one for about £120 so i mean its not a lot. so what do people think. anybody tried the saracen? know anything about it? thanks tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SQuiT-man Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 I think the Bases are really nice, and with a fairly short (e.g. 60-80mm ish) stem, they ride street real nicely. They also have that trialsy feel about them. However, I do belive they weigh around the 5lbs mark and arnt as strong as others, but then you wouldnt expect a frame at this price to be quite as good as frames 2 times its price. Base in my opinion is a nice looking choice I dont know much about crescents, apart from they look fun! Dont they have the smallest production stays around, at lie 14.9" or something? And a really short wheelbase? They look fun to me, however if oyu were to buy one second hand I would check it for cracks, as I dont know if they are highly snappable or not. Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plainlazy84 Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 argh what is your problem with making decisions? you are less decisive than a girl in a shoe shop :mellow: im sure you have started this thread before asking about the exact same frames. If not very similar. Grrrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janson Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Crez > Base. Probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarshRider Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 well the cresant fill float easyer as its not silver :mellow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin t Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 It's fun to see these discussions on tf cause in Sweden ilions is the frame that everyone has as there first bike, and i mean everyone! :mellow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairy elephants Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 It's fun to see these discussions on tf cause in Sweden ilions is the frame that everyone has as there first bike, and i mean everyone! :mellow: ← In that case, what are they like??? :ermm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurra Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 They'r awsome, untill the big UCI boom came. still one of the best feeling bikes imo. light and flickable. overpriced as hell though, none have been sold at they'r correct retail price :mellow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burton Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 id go for the base. fairly light. flicky. about 1020 wb with base fattys on. they may crack a bit easy, but youll have a hard time trying to snap one. Go for the base. OnZa WoOdStOcK? 1.6kg 1055wb with base fattys. ace for gaps. flicky. bunny hops and manuels good. fairly strong(can take a lot off Danny Smith) £350. 2yr onza warrenty. just another possible frame option...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteboy Posted January 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 well i want something thats is equaly as good on natural as it is on street. has anyone got any info on the new mads? any geos? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Al_fel might have a new style T-rex for sale if you ask him nicely......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich4130 Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Al_fel might have a new style T-rex for sale if you ask him nicely......... ← He'd need stilts and arms like stretch armstong to ride it though :mellow:" Not saying I wouldnt though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhythm_101 Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 i have my old woodstock frame, with truvative BB and headset, a few dents in the downtube but not been used much due to work :mellow: up for sale as of.......when i can be arsed to take some piccys :- im looking for around 220 posted with all of the above :( :ermm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteboy Posted January 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 ok well loking and doin some of my own reasearch :) :"> i ts now beetwwen the new mad and a crescent? only prob is got quite a bit info bout the crescent just not a lot about the saracen. so if anyone has any info let me know. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 the base is great on street or natural-it hasnt hindered me at all its your choice but at least you know the base rides well and they look damn good :)" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plainlazy84 Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 how exactly do you plan on getting a Crescent? do you know someone with one second hand because last time i heard they stopped making them a long time ago, under both the Crescent name and later Bianchi. Is it really a good idea buying a frame you have never ridden? maybe if you could ride a few different frames you could make your mind up a bit better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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