Onza-Ash Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Does this help at all? This is a PROTOTYPE FRAME!!! ← as much as everyones gonna hate that, and say how its copied, blah blah blah, i must say thats uber nice! Ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 as much as everyones gonna hate that, and say how its copied, blah blah blah, i must say thats uber nice! Ash ← I doubt it. It's not been copied from anything. I can't think of any other frame (apart from the Mission) that uses that tube setup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartridge Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 I guess people will liken it (from side on) to a Caisso. But from other angles, its nothing like it really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunkey_monkey_boy Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 any idea of likely spec, geo and prices??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Garland Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 as much as everyones gonna hate that, and say how its copied, blah blah blah, i must say thats uber nice! Ash ← Copied from what exactly? Looks like a new design to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartridge Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 any idea of likely spec, geo and prices??? ← Price and spec at the moment are undecided, but it should be something like this: Price: £499 Forks: Onza Lite Guy Tyres: Maxxis Creepy Crawler Rims: Onza Hog with new Hedgehog Cut Outs Chain: KMC Kool Bar and stem: Onza T-Master Alloy 31.8 Combo Brakes: 2005 Magura HS33 (rear), Magura Louise FR (front) Geometry is yet undecided, but it will be something close to that of the T-Pro - which has a wheelbase of around 1030, depending on forks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Aiming for February, but Id have thought it would be later than that. ← Tell them to roll one out early, my freind wont shut up about it :blink: "Is it out yet" - No "Whens it out" - Feb "Feb yet?" - No, its december "oh" Go on, one wont hurt :( The bike does look nice, and looking at the other prototype pictures, it does seem to have been heavily researched. Can't wait to have a go when its finally released and my freind has it, finally :S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Price and spec at the moment are undecided, but it should be something like this: Price: £499 Forks: Onza Lite Guy Tyres: Maxxis Creepy Crawler Rims: Onza Hog with new Hedgehog Cut Outs Chain: KMC Kool Bar and stem: Onza T-Master Alloy 31.8 Combo Brakes: 2005 Magura HS33 (rear), Magura Louise FR (front) Geometry is yet undecided, but it will be something close to that of the T-Pro - which has a wheelbase of around 1030, depending on forks. ← It also has the new muscleman cranks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 New Muscleman cranks? What's different about 'em? Anyhoo, looks to be freakin' awesome for that price, to be fair. Even if the frame's weaker than a new-born, you're still getting a nice swag of parts :blink: I quite like the industrial look of that proto frame, as it goes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Cox Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 New musclemans hey? tell me more tell me more. Got any pics? Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartridge Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 They have a spline-fit UCI bashguard. As seen here on the 2005 T-Pro: http://www.trials-shack.co.uk/tart/tartybi...5tprobbarea.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Are the crank arms just the same? (Bearing in mind I'm on school, and Trials-Shack is banned 'cos it's classed as "Personal Pages" so no pics/vids for me :blink:) Is the price going up or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartridge Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Yeah, same arms, well, slightly different shape so VP pedals will now fit better. Price... not sure, theyre only coming on bikes at the moment, as far as i know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Cheers Mr. Ad :blink: I'm guessing by that the start of the taper by the bulgey bit at the end of the crank are is either moved back or recessed slightly... Anyhoo, thanks :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartridge Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 I'm guessing by that the start of the taper by the bulgey bit at the end of the crank are is either moved back or recessed slightly... ← Both, I think :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Yeah, that's a good call. So how pissy-thin is the UCI ring? I'm *sorta* tempted to go back to running just a bashring. Maybe. I dunno. I might actually buy my Tensiles off Onza, then get a 14t or 15t freewheel and run rear freewheel. Hmmph. Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunkey_monkey_boy Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 where are there pics of the 2005 t-pro? is it different to the 2004??? are onza likely to make anything a bit longer than the t-pro cos it was too short and cramped for me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartridge Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 So how pissy-thin is the UCI ring? ← 5mm thick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartridge Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 where are there pics of the 2005 t-pro? is it different to the 2004??? are onza likely to make anything a bit longer than the t-pro cos it was too short and cramped for me... ← 2005 T-Pro: http://www.trials-shack.co.uk/tart/tartybi...e_2005tpro1.jpg Proto frame, longer than the T-Pro: http://www.trials-shack.co.uk/tart/tartybi...arge_proto2.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunkey_monkey_boy Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 2005 T-Pro: http://www.trials-shack.co.uk/tart/tartybi...e_2005tpro1.jpg Proto frame, longer than the T-Pro: http://www.trials-shack.co.uk/tart/tartybi...arge_proto2.jpg ← so the 2005 t-pro is essentially the same frame(with minor changes) and it still comes with the shitter than shit hubs? do you fancy flogging me that proto frame and just telling onza it went missing??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartridge Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 so the 2005 t-pro is essentially the same frame(with minor changes) do you fancy flogging me that proto frame and just telling onza it went missing??? ← Correct. The hubs are more than adequate, please remember this is a £400 full bike!! Just keep them properly adjusted and you'll have no problems. Hehe, no can do, sorry :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunkey_monkey_boy Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 yeah i know the bikes a bargain for the money i'd just like to see them change the rear hub, maybe leave the old tyres on it or the old maggies and upgrade the hub instead... ah well not to worry cos the t-pro's too short anyway :blink:" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Adam, in the Proto frame pictures, you've posted two different ones, which is the newer of the two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartridge Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Adam, in the Proto frame pictures, you've posted two different ones, which is the newer of the two? ← Neither, they both arrived on the same day. The one without the 2 seat tubes is the new T-Mag, the other (Python) is a random proto frame, just to see what its like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Ooh, more news, straight from the horse's (Mike Poyzer @ Onza in this case) mouth: The T-Mag 2005 frames will be arriving in the UK on approx 18th Feb, so full bikes should be available around a week after that. There will be two specs: Spec 1. Exactly as T-Pro but front Magura Louise FR brake (disc mounts added to cromo forks, and sealed bearing alloy front Onza hub (same as on Woodstock)). Front rim will also have side drilling. Shin Dig pedals included, front freewheel cranks, Creepy Crawlers tyres etc - £499. Spec 2. Tensile cranks, Hognesium pedals, Alloy oversize bar and stem, sealed bearing rear hub, Smart Guy fork, sealed bearing headset. Frame, fork, stem and handlebar all in high polish finish - £649 Both of them sound like a bit of a bargain, very very good spec for the money. More info as and when it becomes available! Cheers, Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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