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Thank's...We shall see how long those fork's will last, what come standard. :P

they're your teeth :D

nah - they'll probably just bend a bit rather than snapping in half.

- the thing with forks is that if they do go it'll be when you hit the ground at 30mph so I prefer to err on the tanklike side

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since i can't ride for 8 weeks, i have a bit of money a job and a birthday coming up, i've scrapped the idea of a full build for my birthday, instead i'm going to build my own bike up. i'm going to buy a fly pantera 2 frame, i don't really want to spend much more than £230 on a frame. That is my birthday money gone, and leaves £20 for a train ticket and entry to a park.

What i'd like to know is what brands are generally worth paying for?

list all you can think of.

By the time the wires are removed from my fingers and my cast comes off, my bmx should finally be ready for riding :D

so yea..any help would be great.

EDIT: Just re-read my post, i havn't explained properly, i'm already decided on the frame i was merely explaining what i'm intending on doing (everybody likes an informative post :P)

i'm after brands of parts that are generally worth paying for not frames :)

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I think you should get the new inertia hades then bash it against concrete ledges so I can see if the dropouts snap off - if they don't ill get one too

erm..

sunday - i want a sunday but i haven't killed my federal yet.

federal - i haven't killed mine despite the massive dents

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thanks for the advice but i mean parts, i'm already decided on the frame :)

oh.

someone else buy the inertia frame then, I want to know if the dropouts snap off

er.

odyssey make good bits for the most part - pretty cheap too really.

you just can't get away with churning out shit bmx parts in the same way you can with trials parts so most things made by most of the major players are decent enough quality.

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Go with whats proven if you don't know what your after.

Eastern wheels have proven themselves for the price. Eastern sealed hub with a supra G 48h.

Odyssey rear complete wheels are a top. I run one, so do most people.

£30 bars are fine.

Forks, again Odyssey are popular.

Give us some links to what you like the look of and we will comment.

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Thanks for the advice mark :)

Sadly, the pink Bump's been sold onto another buyer as of today (N) So, i'll have to go with my second plan...

http://www.mirrabikeco.com/bikes/bp1.htm

Hmm... it is rather tasty, considering it's price...

I need a BMX anyways, don't care if it's not amazing, just that it works without feeling like turd. I just want one for fitness reasons, general thrashing about, and of course... Fun. :)

EDIT:

A few questions.. for those gurus out there!

1. Mid and US BBs... what's the deal with them? I see high end frames using Mid all the time and hardly any using US anymore. Pros and cons of each?

2. Is Euro a bad option for harsh street use, when compared to Mid or US?... Considering how badly Euro threads and BBs fail on trials bikes...

If Euro's a more preferable option over US.. then i might go for the Mirraco BP2 instead of the BP1. Whichever one's gonna cause me less grief! :P

Lastly... any idea of when Mirraco's in the UK? and who deal's 'em?

Thanks in advance.

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mid is the same as the US only there's no cups so the bearings mash directly into the frame. i wouldn't imagine there's any strength difference.

My euro is holding up surprisingly well given that with a 22mm crank spindle the bearings cant be more than a couple of mm in diameter.

however ...

I wouldn't choose euro over any other BB option - euro bearings are potentially a lot weaker, i wouldn't worry overly about the threads because the bike's made of metal rather than cheese but compared to US & mid the bearings are tiny.

no idea whether you can get em over here yet

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Ah I see I now :) Cheers poopipe!

Hmm... yet ANOTHER option has popped into my hands... this time it's in the form of a decent but stupidly cheap Ares flatlander. (I am terrible at sticking with one option in my head!)

Are flatland frames/bmxs alright for lightweight street or simple dirt riding? I'm talking techy smooth bunnyhop/manual/180 lines for street, no harsh stuff like grinds or big stair jumps. They seem rather lightweight and stupidly tiny bikes but do they have enough oomph for a bit of basic street and dirt? or will it feel as stupid as trying trials with a DH bike?

I've owned a basic flatlander in the past... but that kinda got neglected and turned into an orange statue after 2 years behind a yew bush :rolleyes:

On top of that, what is the deal with the flatland-specific type handlebars and forks? They look much different to the 'conventional' BMX versions...

Sorry for all the questions, but I'd rather know about what I'm getting myself into, to prevent making a stupid decision. :P

Again, thanks in advance. :)

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Well i was intending on buying only the frame new, and the rest 2nd hand, that way you usually get better deals, i just don't want to get ripped off, and i'd like to know what i'm paying for. They are the reasons i asked.

I guess i'll just have to do some research :)

EDIT: which headset will fit this frame. I don't want to spend too much money on a headset, because in my experience they never seem to break, so errr..£30. BMX's are so darn confusing.

also, which bb should i buy, i know this one has to be spanish :)BB page with my experience BB's are worth paying for, so best for the money rule applies here :)

Last but not least, what do you all think about these pegs do they hold up well for a fat jabba! and are they light.

p.s in 2 years 4 months time, anybody that has helped me out alot here is coming to the pub with me and i'm getting the rounds in! :P

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the headsets and bbs are all the same with different branding on as far as i can work out. just get the shop to give you the right ones when you buy the frame.

8 quid a peg? bugger that. shadows are £12 a pair and they dont have lumps that get stuck on stuff

sponge...

the ares frames look ok quality to me -ive touched one and everything. i wouldnt advise getting one for non flatland use though cos itd probably be a bit on the weak side even if you didnt find it too snappy or unstable at speed. if you want a short streety frame on the cheap look at the federal hamilton - you might still be able to get hold of an 05 for about £90 if you look around.

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Does anyone know if the mongoose expert wheelset (2005) on winstanleys has sealed bearings?

Thanks,

dave

Wheels: Sun ZX25 36 hole front and 48 hole rear rims with Loose Ball cassette rear hub

I'm guessing loose ball bearing is the opposite from sealed :P

EDIT: link! to where i found out

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they seem to be very good for the price, and i have never had any real trouble with loose ball hubs, i now enjoy saying loose ball..

I'm sure theres someone that can help a bit more than me around, but they do seem pretty decent for the price (Y)

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they seem to be very good for the price, and i have never had any real trouble with loose ball hubs, i now enjoy saying loose ball..

I'm sure theres someone that can help a bit more than me around, but they do seem pretty decent for the price (Y)

lots of grinds + loose bearings = new wheel at some point .

it took me a long time to kill my last one though so open bearings are no real reason to not buy a bike that's a good price

- on that note I think you can probably do better for £230

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There is a loose bearing wheel still floating about within our locals. Been around for 3/4 years now.

14mm solid axle with 48h supra E.

It's on it's forth person now. I was the second to use it and it hasn't been serviced by any of us yet. It is a classic wheel.

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odyssey = lifetime guarantee

pantera != lifetime guarantee

ergo

odyssey

oh - OBM, did you get another comedy injury in the last couple of days? I smacked exactly the same bit of my arse as i did last time i lauhed at you and im sat on 3 arse cheeks again.

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odyssey = lifetime guarantee

pantera != lifetime guarantee

ergo

odyssey

oh - OBM, did you get another comedy injury in the last couple of days? I smacked exactly the same bit of my arse as i did last time i lauhed at you and im sat on 3 arse cheeks again.

sounds like karma to me :P :P

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Just got offered a great deal...

Loads of mid-range components for trade price from a friend, .. of my choice. (strictly mid-range, as in no cassette hubs and no fancy £150 forks, Still fooking happy).

But I have to buy a Mutiny frame from his shop in order for this deal to work (full price frame, but get other parts trade). So what frame should I get? These are the ones on my mind:

2006 Eden (the bright kawasaki green 'un)

2007 Sinister

2007 Captain (pink or raw'uns)

2007 Burlish

and perhaps the Josh Bedford Burlish Holdfast... but i can't seem to find online info anywhere.

I guess this solution is better as buying a complete bike elsewhere would mean most components would be ones I wanna replace. This Mutiny trade deal seems more attractive as I get a frame for keeps, at the same time nice mid-range stuff (I'm thinking £50 odyssey forks for starters)

Suggestions, ideas? For the frames mainly?

I am totally lost on what I want to get for a frame. The Burlish is so tempting, but I want to do street and I want to grind a lot. Perhaps the Josh Bedford Burlish Holdfast if the shop can get that one in as I hear it's rather LTD edition? Well, I am right in thinking the JB Burlish-Holdfast is just a tougher street version of the normal Burlish, right? Anyone mind taking a pic of the Josh Bedford bikecheck page from the Ride BMX issue 100 mag for me? I'd like to know more about the BurlishHoldfast before choosing any frame.

Thanks in advance.

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I don't really know all that much about bmx but i know for frames what your looking for is full chro - mo, so whichever has the most chromo i'd choose, unless they all are or more than one is then i can't help you...

Mark, what gear ratio are you running on your bike?

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