poopipe Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 (edited) er, how do i phrase this as a question?hmm...Who's as happy as I am that gsport plastic pegs are nearly with us?my dropouts are going to love me again Edited October 24, 2006 by poopipe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 I never really bothered to look into it before but it seems a good idea.Aluminium rails will slide. Smiths won't turn into toothpicks (literally) Super duber light weight.But will they snap, crush, bend? If they could get them to bend rather than snap that would be cool. Maybe with the steel inner it should work. Will this be the end of snapped axles? A disadvantage people will foget, they won't spark! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 I never really bothered to look into it before but it seems a good idea.Aluminium rails will slide. Smiths won't turn into toothpicks (literally) Super duber light weight.But will they snap, crush, bend? If they could get them to bend rather than snap that would be cool. Maybe with the steel inner it should work. Will this be the end of snapped axles? A disadvantage people will foget, they won't spark! steel pegs dont spark properly for me anyway - maybe im not hitting stuff hard enoughI reckon they'll be solid enough - they can make some pretty beefy plastics these days. mr French says he's been running plastic pegs for years and I know he likes his handrails . I'll definitely give em a shot as soon as they're available - if only to save my shins a bit of pain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitemybutt Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 (edited) Right little question.I'm confused about the whole drivetrain system on a bmx. I went to buy a profile chainring t'other day, and he started talking about gearing on the back.So is it the same as ratios on a trials bikes.Any recomendations?Also are the threads for pedals the same on both types of bikes.CheersEdit: Oops didn't realise i was on my bro's account. It's actually yoyoyo. Edited October 29, 2006 by bitemybutt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 So is it the same as ratios on a trials bikes.Any recomendations?Also are the threads for pedals the same on both types of bikes.Cheerser. 2.75:1ish is what most people try to runeg. 44:1639:1436:1333:1230:1128:1025:9etc.....pedals are interchangeable with the ones on your trials bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 pedals are interchangeable with the ones on your trials bikeAs long as your not running 1 piece cranks. But what he said is right. There is also no correct gear. So if you wanted you could run 1:1 gear ratio being 18t sprocket and 18t freewheel. But that would just be silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A!! Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 (edited) I'm just looking for a bit of advise on a couple of things. First of all is there anyway of running a rear brake and still being able to bar spin without using gyro, as it just feels utter poo with the gyro system on, and is pretty useless. Would it work if i used a long cable so that it wrapped round when i spun the bars. Or is it more hassle than its worth I know there is the whole brakeless idea, but i'm not so sold on it, as i can just see it coming to a painful end. And secondly could someone please give me some pointers on how to hop barspin. I can pull a normal barspin by slightly pinching the seat, and lifting the front up and spinning the bars easily. But i want to try and learn to do them in a hop. So if anyone has got some pointers, it would be much appreciated. Edited October 31, 2006 by huck_it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 (edited) I'm just looking for a bit of advise on a couple of things. First of all is there anyway of running a rear break and still being able to bar spin without using gyro, as it just feels utter poo with the gyro system on, and is pretty useless. Would it work if i used a long cable so that it wrapped round when i spun the bars. Or is it more hassle than its worth I know there is the whole breakless idea, but i'm not so sold on it, as i can just see it coming to a painful end. And secondly could someone please give me some pointers on how to hop barspin. I can pull a normal barspin by slightly pinching the seat, and lifting the front up and spinning the bars easily. But i want to try and learn to do them in a hop. So if anyone has got some pointers, it would be much appreciated. 1st question: yes, just run a long cable - it works fine until it gets wrapped round a couple of times. seriously though - go brakeless, I havent hurt myself as a result of not having brakes and I'm shit2nd question: no, cos I can't do them - probably because I can't pinch my seat regardless of where I put it. Im going to try & learn them by riding off ledges.edit - scratch point 2. I learnt them at lunchtime. hop bars tomorrow Edited November 1, 2006 by poopipe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 And secondly could someone please give me some pointers on how to hop barspin. I can pull a normal barspin by slightly pinching the seat, and lifting the front up and spinning the bars easily. But i want to try and learn to do them in a hop. So if anyone has got some pointers, it would be much appreciated. If you can catch already then just hop and throw. It's one of those mind over matter tricks. Lean back a little to get your legs out the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A!! Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 Cheers for the help. When i get my new wethepeople beyond i might try brakeless and see how it goes. If i don't like it then i will probably just run a long cable if the standard one isn't long enough for it. But i suppose brakeless is worth a try Back to the barspin hops, at first i couldn't get my self to spin them and i'm still having trouble getting my self to do it now. I just end up doing bunny hop after bunnyhop because i won't let my self do it. But after a few more goes i was starting to throw them in, but i just kept hitting my knees. I suppose it is just a case of practicing, and when i get my new bike hopefully that will help as it is a hell of a lot lighter so i should be able to do bigger bunny hops, so i can chuck the barspins in easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 another barspin question...how do you barspin without pinching the seat then ? after my (thoroughly successful) lunchtime of learning to barspin i've got massive bruises on my calves which are not only painful but unsightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 You could try another seat, like a big padded one. Or really concentrate on your catching hand and catch the bars real early before they line up.Watch some of Edwin's, his hands basically never leave the bars. Or just do them Van style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A!! Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 another barspin question... how do you barspin without pinching the seat then ? after my (thoroughly successful) lunchtime of learning to barspin i've got massive bruises on my calves which are not only painful but unsightly. That is exactly what happened to me when i started doing them. But i found after a while when i was more confident with them i just dropped the seat a bit lower and i don't tend to pinch it as hard or as much. I just keep my legs slightly wedged back into the curve on the seat so that when i lean back it gives me more support, if you see what i mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A!! Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Basically after my order from evans cycles for the wethepeople beyond went down the pan (see angry thread). I ended up canceling the order with them. So i have been searching for other good bmx shops which i have found, but at the same time noticed another bike being the fit flow street. As i'm pretty new to bmxing, i'm just wanting some opinions on which bike to get, being the wethepeople beyond or the fit flow street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 I'd proberly go with the Fit bike. The components seem to be better in most cases.Although there are some other nice complete bikes around as well.See what you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 doesn't the flow street have no brake lugs on the frame? something to consider as your earlier posts suggest you might want to run a brake in future (not that i want to encourage the use of brakes) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A!! Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 doesn't the flow street have no brake lugs on the frame? something to consider as your earlier posts suggest you might want to run a brake in future (not that i want to encourage the use of brakes) Ye i did notice that when i saw it, but after you said about going brakeless i gave it a go and really like it. So i'm happy to say i have been converted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Ye i did notice that when i saw it, but after you said about going brakeless i gave it a go and really like it. So i'm happy to say i have been converted good lad ....awaits post asking about durable sole compounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 I would be convinced about being brakeless 100% if i could abubaca and fufe. Those are the 2 tricks i would love to do. They are the tricks that make me put a brake on now and again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 I would be convinced about being brakeless 100% if i could abubaca and fufe. Those are the 2 tricks i would love to do. They are the tricks that make me put a brake on now and again.yeah, much as i spout on about it I'm not sure I'd buy a frame with no lugs - purely cos i might decide i've lost my balls one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A!! Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Just found out that it actually does come with a brake but it is one of those single bolt jobbies, that fit to the hole in the little cross piece between the stays. Even so i doubt i will use it, as i will probably just take it off. Hopefully it should be here tomorrow *fingers crossed*. But it is the 06 one, as it was a good price compared to the new fit flow street at £528 (which i wouldn't of been able to afford). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 You can still abubaca and fufanu on quarters and banks, just not really on subs. About non-pinching bars - you have to straighten your legs, but lean your upper body over the front end more so the bike doesn't shoot forwards. Just watch a few Eddie Cleveland videos (i.e. in my sig ). But yeah, just straighten the legs but lean your body forwards. All there is to it, pretty much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoyoyo Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 Whats the advantage of narrower bars, if any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 Um, the school of thought was that they used to be best for barspins, but people kinda said "f**k that" to that idea, and now people are merrily bar-spinning with 28", uncut 'big' bars. I can't deal with anything below 26" at the moment, I've got a pair of beautiful chrome Slams here but they're cut down an inch off each side and I honestly can't ride with them like that. I was trying this line where you sorta do a rolling sidehop up onto this wall, keep rolling along, then 3-hop off it, and I couldn't land the 3 'cos it felt like there just wasn't enough bar to push against to stop me, almost. It was weird... Either way, big bars 4 lyf now. I know Michael Hardman's probably gonna come in and go "You only need your bars to be as wide as your shoulders", but that's a load of shit. Having wider bars gives you so much more control. The guys with ultra short bars at Southbank all tried my bike and Chris + Jays bikes (uncut Sunday Triumphs on their's, uncut Slams on mine), realised they could still barspin with htem, and now they've gone to slightly wider bars, and they're all riding way, way better as a result. I think everyone needs to have a wide bars phase at some point in their lives... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 (edited) Shorter bars allow you to hop higher. But when flying through hips and boxs little bars are a bit on the sketchy side. Try manual x-ups or any 'rubber wrist' tricks with larger bars then you will find another disadvantage. I ride 25" Macneil 5's uncut at the moment. But they are still to wide for the 'rubber wrist' tricks.How do you suggest i do brakeless fufs and abubacas? Rear foot on tyre and lots of practice? Edited November 13, 2006 by eskimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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